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Charlie
09-15-2004, 09:00 AM
oh yeah, the fuckin ravens killed me. i thought they were a lock at -3. the ravens, panthers and chiefs are all extremely overrated.

(>_<)
09-15-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by Salami Swami
Hey man, that's awesome that you're not buying into all the Eagles hype this year. Oh wait. I'm thinking Seattle. Fuck it.

Nah, but seriously, they'll make it to the NFC title game again and choke it again when the PACK or CAROLINA takes them out, I'm guessing.

In the AFC, as much as I Hate them, (with a capital "H" you'll notice) I believe the Chiefs or perhaps the Colts will represent in the Super Bowl.

Sleepers, I'm going with Washington and Atlanta.

i'm quoting this for prosterity.

by the way, TO and Donnie Mac will eat your faces.

Salami Swami
09-15-2004, 04:55 PM
Yeah I still think the Packers could beat the Eagles in the playoffs. Maybe Carolina not so much, but definitely the Packers.

The Eagles looked really good, but the Giants aren't exactly heavyweights now are they?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/040915

On the other hand, The Pack stuck it to the defending NFC champs pretty much all night on Monday.

I'm sure the Eagles are going to be really good but we'll see later if they can finally make it over.

Next Monday's game will be exciting.

jinzoningen
09-17-2004, 08:00 AM
Last week 2-1, overall 2-1

KANSAS CITY -6 over Carolina

NY Jets -3 over SAN DIEGO

Washington -3 over NY GIANTS

shammy718
09-17-2004, 09:01 AM
let's go, raiders.

: )

Charlie
09-17-2004, 09:33 AM
my picks...

JACKSONVILLE +3 over Denver
New England -8 over ARIZONA
Jets -3 over SAN DEIGO
Pittsburgh +3.5 over BALTIMORE
GREEN BAY -8.5 over Chicago
OAKLAND -3 OVER Buffalo

Charlie
09-22-2004, 11:07 AM
last week: 3-2-1
overall: 3-2-1

this week:
Pittsburgh +1 over MIAMI
Jacksonville +6 over TENNESSEE
GIANTS -3 over Cleveland
CINCINNATI +3 over Baltimore
Houston +8.5 over KANSAS CITY
New Orleans +7 over ST. LOUIS
Chicago +9 over MINNESOTA
Philadelphia -4 over DETROIT
Arizona +10 over ATLANTA
San Diego +10 over DENVER
INDIANAPOLIS -5.5 over Green Bay
SEATTLE -10.5 over San Francisco
OAKLAND -3 over Tampa Bay

Dallas +2 over WASHINGTON

jinzoningen
09-24-2004, 09:02 AM
Last week 1-2, overall 3-3

Baltimore -3 over CINCINNATI

MINNESOTA -9.5 over Chicago

ATLANTA -9.5 over Arizona

San Diego +10.5 over DENVER

shammy718
09-24-2004, 06:50 PM
oakland over tampa bay. the website this week is a hoot!


http://raiders.com/

(>_<)
09-25-2004, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Salami Swami
Yeah I still think the Packers could beat the Eagles in the playoffs. Maybe Carolina not so much, but definitely the Packers.

The Eagles looked really good, but the Giants aren't exactly heavyweights now are they?
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/040915

On the other hand, The Pack stuck it to the defending NFC champs pretty much all night on Monday.

I'm sure the Eagles are going to be really good but we'll see later if they can finally make it over.

Next Monday's game will be exciting.

what's really hood?

shammy718
09-26-2004, 09:00 PM
good game for oakland. i like warren sapp in the silver n black. and the fans gave a nice ovation to tim brown*

golivar
09-26-2004, 09:06 PM
great packers/colts game. i don't think you see too many air shoot-out games like that nowadays. manning really picked the packers apart. good work under the blitz pressure.

jinzoningen
09-27-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Charlie

this week:
Pittsburgh +1 over MIAMI
Jacksonville +6 over TENNESSEE
GIANTS -3 over Cleveland
CINCINNATI +3 over Baltimore
Houston +8.5 over KANSAS CITY
New Orleans +7 over ST. LOUIS
Chicago +9 over MINNESOTA
Philadelphia -4 over DETROIT
Arizona +10 over ATLANTA
San Diego +10 over DENVER
INDIANAPOLIS -5.5 over Green Bay
SEATTLE -10.5 over San Francisco
OAKLAND -3 over Tampa Bay


WOW! 11-1-1. That's pretty damn good.

Is this a fluke or are you really consistent at picking winners?

Charlie
09-27-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen


WOW! 11-1-1. That's pretty damn good.

Is this a fluke or are you really consistent at picking winners?

Beginner's luck, I guess. And I'm starting to get a feel for the teams and what they can do. We'll see how this record holds up as the season progresses. I just wish I had this luck back in Vegas for Week 1. Would've had some sweet parlays this week.

Charlie
09-29-2004, 10:17 AM
Last Week: 12-1-1
Overall: 15-3-2

Lets see if my luck continues...

Giants +7 over GREEN BAY
Philadelphia -9 over CHICAGO
CLEVELAND +3 over Washington
New England -5.5 over BUFFALO
Oakland -2 over HOUSTON
Indianapolis -4 over JACKSONVILLE
Cincinnati +4 over PITTSBURGH
CAROLINA -3.5 over Atlanta
ARIZONA +3 over New Orleans
MIAMI +5.5 over Jets
TAMPA BAY +3 over Denver
Tennessee -3 over SAN DIEGO
SAN FRANCISCO +3.5 over St. Louis

jinzoningen
10-01-2004, 08:30 AM
Last week 2-2, overall 5-5

Philadelphia -8.5 over CHICAGO

NY Jets -5 over MIAMI

Tennessee -3 over SAN DIEGO

SAN FRANCISCO +4 over St. Louis

Charlie
10-05-2004, 12:16 PM
6-6-1 this week. back to earth after my stellar picks last week. I thought the 0-3 teams would get off the schnide or at least put up a stronger showing. with the exception of Arizona, boy was I wrong. The Niners and Dolphins sure do suck! which is good because they are probably the 2 teams I despise most....along with the Broncos. It's tough being a Raiders fan. And having Kerry Collins at the helm doesn't help matters. He's a turnover waiting to happen. As a Knicks fan, I should be used to the grief year after year. How bout those Jets and Giants!

Charlie
10-05-2004, 05:54 PM
Last Week: 6-6-1
Overall: 21-9-3

I'm feeling good about this week...

NEW ENGLAND -12.5 over Miami
PITTSBURGH -6 over Cleveland
Oakland +9 over INDIANAPOLIS
Detroit +7 over ATLANTA
Tampa Bay +3 over NEW ORLEANS
DALLAS -3.5 over Giants
HOUSTON +4 over Minnesota
Buffalo +7 over JETS
Jacksonville -3 over SAN DIEGO
DENVER -5.5 over Carolina
SEATTLE -6.5 over St. Louis
Arizona +1 over SAN FRANCISCO
Baltimore -2 over WASHINGTON

GREEN BAY -3 over Tennessee
*never bet against Brett Favre on Monday Night. I paid dearly for it in Week 1

jinzoningen
10-06-2004, 02:06 PM
Last week 2-2, overall 7-7

INDIANAPOLIS -9.5 over Oakland

Tampa Bay +3 over NEW ORLEANS

Buffalo +7 over NY JETS

Jacksonville -3 over SAN DIEGO

Arizona +2 over SAN FRANCISCO

Charlie
10-13-2004, 08:58 AM
Last Week: 6-8
Overall: 27-17-3

I've been falling off the last couple weeks. This picking games thing is tough. Fuckin Raiders! If he fucks up this week, I think it's time we see Tui! Anyway, back to the picks...

BUFFALO -6 over Miami
San Francisco +10 over NY JETS
NEW ENGLAND -4 over Seattle
PHILADELPHIA -9 over Carolina
CLEVELAND -2.5 over Cincinnati
DETROIT -2 over Green Bay
Washington over CHICAGO
Houston +6.5 over TENNESSEE
San Diego +4.5 over ATLANTA
Kansas City -1.5 over JACKSONVILLE
Pittsburgh +3 over DALLAS
OAKLAND +2 over Denver
NEW ORLEANS +3.5 over Minnesota

Monday, Oct. 18
Tampa Bay +6 over ST. LOUIS

jinzoningen
10-15-2004, 08:35 AM
Last week 3-2, overall 10-9

Washington -1 over CHICAGO

San Diego +5.5 over ATLANTA

Kansas City -1.5 over JACKSONVILLE

Pittsburgh +3 over DALLAS

Denver -1.5 over OAKLAND

Charlie
10-20-2004, 09:33 AM
fuckin Raiders.

Last Week: 9-5
Overall: 36-22-3

This Week...

BALTIMORE -5.5 over Buffalo
Detroit +6.5 over GIANTS
Philadelphia -7 over CLEVELAND
INDIANAPOLIS -9.5 over Jacksonville
Tennessee +7 over MINNESOTA
San Diego +3 over CAROLINA
St. Louis -6 over MIAMI
TAMPA BAY -7 over Chicago
Atlanta +4 over KANSAS CITY
Jets +6 over NEW ENGLAND
Dallas +3.5 over GREEN BAY
ARIZONA +6.5 over Seattle
OAKLAND -3 over New Orleans

Denver -6 over CINCINNATI

shammy718
10-20-2004, 01:09 PM
i'll miss jerry rice.

golivar
10-20-2004, 01:22 PM
hasselbeck was 10 yrs old in rice's rookie season!

unhip
10-20-2004, 09:21 PM
THE POWER OF RICE COMPELS YOU!

jinzoningen
10-22-2004, 06:02 PM
Last week 4-1, overall 14-10

NY GIANTS -6.5 over Detroit

Jacksonville +9.5 over INDIANAPOLIS

Tennessee +7 over MINNESOTA

Atlanta +3.5 over KANSAS CITY

ARIZONA +7 over Seattle

jinzoningen
10-29-2004, 09:57 AM
Last week 2-3, overall 16-13

NY Giants +7 over MINNESOTA

Indianapolis -1.5 over KANSAS CITY

Jacksonville +1.5 over HOUSTON

shammy718
10-29-2004, 05:02 PM
god, i hope the raiders beat the chargers tomorrow.

shammy718
11-28-2004, 09:21 PM
wasn't pretty at times, but the raiders got the W.

golivar
11-28-2004, 11:54 PM
think we might have a pennsylvania superbowl this season?

i don't think so. i think tom brady will rally the troops against the steelers. they'll win the rematch.

shammy718
11-29-2004, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by golivar
think we might have a pennsylvania superbowl this season?

i don't think so. i think tom brady will rally the troops against the steelers. they'll win the rematch.


^i just can't bring myself to like the pats...

unhip
11-29-2004, 08:12 AM
i like how the chiefs have lost 5 games, having been leading in the 4th quarter. if they'd stop magically fucking up, they'd be at the top of the division. the defense is so damned inconsistent. and priest holmes' injury among others are not helping.

Salami Swami
11-29-2004, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by shammy718
wasn't pretty at times, but the raiders got the W.
WORD TO THAT!
My Super Bowl for a fucking horrible season.
I missed almost the entire game, but got home just in time for Denver to start that last drive.

The Raiders were rushing three guys and letting Plummer do whatever he wanted, it looked like here we go again time, and even as Elam lined up for the 42 yarder with about 20 or 30 seconds to go, I was already seeing it go through.

One of the announcers was saying something about getting a push and trying to block it, and something else about not being able to use another player to launch yourself into the air for a block and blah blah blah, and I was like "Yeah that'd be great right about now..." but knowing Elam for as long as I have (he came from Hawaii after all) it just didn't look too good.

Then the snap came and this happened.
http://media.mnginteractive.com/media/paper36/Broncos1129art.jpg

I know they suck pretty bad this year, but that play made it okay.
For me, anyway.

shammy718
11-29-2004, 02:38 PM
for me too! it was a thing of beauty, that play... you never know, maybe this last game can be a turning point of sorts for the team? anyway, good game...against denver, no less : )

golivar
11-29-2004, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by shammy718



^i just can't bring myself to like the pats...

you commie

unhip
11-29-2004, 07:17 PM
anyone else think it was a conspiracy that they won the super bowl after 9/11?

windchillFactor
11-30-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by unhip
anyone else think it was a conspiracy that they won the super bowl after 9/11?

No, but I did think it was pathetic how people were trying to find some sort of meaning in it just because of their name. I'm sure if the Raiders hadn't been cheated out of the opportunity, there would have been some sort of connection made for them as well...perhaps something about their mean, crazy fans representing the attitude we would take with the rest of the world...

Sid
01-08-2005, 08:50 AM
Charges over Jets
Rams over Seahawks
Colts over Broncos
Packers over Vikings

Charlie
01-09-2005, 07:40 AM
good game last night in sudden death. too bad san diego. you had your chance but kaeding and shotty blew it. maybe next year. gotta root for the J-E-T-S in these playoffs. Steelers are gonna be tough though.

trex
01-15-2005, 04:04 PM
ARECHHHHH
the fucking jets...sigh
man how else...uwh. hwath the...jewchsss.
fucking shite man...
fuckcuntmutherfowkingbastardarhhhhchccccc


never be a jets fan....and expect to go home happy...

golivar
01-15-2005, 04:14 PM
good game. was rooting for the jets; can't believe brien missed that 40 yarder. i was screaming at my tv.

it would've been awesome if they'd won, mainly because i think the pats would've had a better chance at home against the jets than they will have against the steelers in pittsburgh.

shammy718
01-15-2005, 04:15 PM
gotta make those kicks. watching the rams game now.

jinzoningen
01-15-2005, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by golivar

it would've been awesome if they'd won, mainly because i think the pats would've had a better chance at home against the jets than they will have against the steelers in pittsburgh.

After watching the Steelers game, I'm not so convinced that they'll win it all this year anymore. Roethelisberger looked very average today and seemed like he was pressing. Almost every other ball he threw looked like he was holding back and aiming the ball instead of cutting loose. Might be another Steelers choke coming up in the AFC Championship.

I think if the Colts beat the Pats tomorrow, they'll be licking their chops because the Steelers' corners look vulnerable.

bones2380
01-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Roethelisberger is exposed as the false idol that he is. :D

Can anyone stop the triple threat that the Falcons have in Vick, Dunn and Duckett?

Godzilla's Son
01-15-2005, 10:36 PM
Originally posted by bones2380
Roethelisberger is exposed as the false idol that he is. :D

Can anyone stop the triple threat that the Falcons have in Vick, Dunn and Duckett?


manning, james, harrison, wayne, stokely, clarke

jinzoningen
01-15-2005, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by Godzilla's Son



manning, james, harrison, wayne, stokely, clarke

And let us not forget the idiot kicker Vanderjagt.

jinzoningen
01-15-2005, 10:41 PM
Originally posted by bones2380
Roethelisberger is exposed as the false idol that he is. :D


Yeah, he is a little overrated. He is definitely great for a rookie, but there's no way I'd draft him in a fantasy league.

jinzoningen
01-15-2005, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by bones2380

Can anyone stop the triple threat that the Falcons have in Vick, Dunn and Duckett?

You forgot Crumpler too.

If the Falcons had good wideouts they'd be scary and unstoppable.

bones2380
01-16-2005, 01:33 AM
Falcons have a better D, then the Colts.

Besides I doubt 2 dome teams will make it to the Superbowl.

Decadent1
01-16-2005, 09:06 AM
So far I'm perfek with my picks. I didn't say them here so you'll have to take my word for it

Vikings over Iggles (A hope more than anything. Suffer, Philly fans; Sufferrrrr.)

Patriots over Colts (Suffer, Peyton; Sufferrrrrr.)

shammy718
01-16-2005, 10:37 AM
in other news:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20050116/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_robbins_shot



i always felt for the guy.

Pollux
01-16-2005, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Decadent1
So far I'm perfek with my picks. I didn't say them here so you'll have to take my word for it

Vikings over Iggles (A hope more than anything. Suffer, Philly fans; Sufferrrrr.)

Patriots over Colts (Suffer, Peyton; Sufferrrrrr.)



The Vikings over the Eagles? What where you thinking?

Sid
01-16-2005, 03:30 PM
Fark dude. I can't stand the pats. And I think Dungy is a wuss. He never goes for it on 4th down. I knew they should've gone for it when it was 4th and 1 in the 3rd quarter because the pats just eat up the clock. Oh well...hope Steelers kick the crap out of the pats next week. Either them or the Falcons.

FDM
01-16-2005, 04:10 PM
STFU VANDERJAGT ^__^

01-16-2005, 04:41 PM
what up moss, you fucking pansy

jinzoningen
01-16-2005, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by Sid
Oh well...hope Steelers kick the crap out of the pats next week. Either them or the Falcons.

I think the Pats are gonna beat the Steelers.
I don't think they're gonna let the rookie beat
them twice in one season. As much as I like
Cowher, I don't think they stand a chance
against the experienced Pats. Bellichick and
company seem to kick it up a notch during
the playoffs.

If the Falcons make the Super Bowl they will
get killed by the AFC representative. The
Eagles I think have a better chance at keeping
the game competitive.

golivar
01-16-2005, 07:00 PM
i'm confused, does anyone know what the deal is with ty law?

also, the main things that scare me about pittsburgh right now are staley and bettis. those guys are tough to stop. vrabel and bruschi are really going to have to be on top of their game next week.

and i agree with what jinz said earlier, roethlisberger did look a little more reserved yesterday, a little less than 100% confident, esp with those interceptions he threw. i'm hoping that yesterday's close game might've rattled him a bit.

FDM
01-16-2005, 07:30 PM
ty law be injured. out for rest of season. end of story. ty poole too.

we could have a tough time with bettis, given the way we handled eddie james today. dude kept getting like over 5 yds every play he ran. time will tell if the defense can step it up and shut down the running game.

score early, score often, leave no doubt.

golivar
01-20-2005, 11:44 PM
interesting mini-interview with hines ward (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/players/01/18/first_person0124/). i didn't know he is half-korean.

windchillFactor
01-21-2005, 03:42 AM
That was interesting. He'll probably never put up hall of fame numbers, but having been watching the Steelers since little-up, he is the toughest WR I've ever seen. I'd take him over Moss and TO anyday.

jinzoningen
01-21-2005, 07:31 AM
PHILADELPHIA -5 over Atlanta
PITTSBURGH +3 over New Enland

*It has been noted that the state of Pennsylvania is 1-7 in Championship games since 1980.

golivar
01-22-2005, 10:38 PM
rick reilly's column in this week's SI cracked me up. he has suggestions for some new TD endzone dances. some of the funnier ones were:

- run to the replay monitor, watch yourself score, and signal touchdown
- pull out video camera while still running and tape self scoring TD
- leap into crowd, yank off helmet, fill with some lady's order of nachos and watch replay of your TD on JumboTron
- fake heart attack and holler "i'm comin', elizabeth!"
- strap on jet pack and fly out of stadium


heehee

FDM
01-22-2005, 10:43 PM
we've taken on pittsburg before. fuck 'em. i just wish that shit was happening up here. snow bowl pt. deux :D

jinzoningen
01-22-2005, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by golivar
rick reilly's column in this week's SI cracked me up. he has suggestions for some new TD endzone dances. some of the funnier ones were:

- run to the replay monitor, watch yourself score, and signal touchdown
- pull out video camera while still running and tape self scoring TD
- leap into crowd, yank off helmet, fill with some lady's order of nachos and watch replay of your TD on JumboTron
- fake heart attack and holler "i'm comin', elizabeth!"
- strap on jet pack and fly out of stadium


heehee

I was thinking it would've been great if Randy Moss had slowly squeezed the ball out from between his legs after he did the moon thing at Green Bay.

Sid
01-22-2005, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by golivar
interesting mini-interview with hines ward (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/players/01/18/first_person0124/). i didn't know he is half-korean.

Wow great interview. His mom sounds amazing. Thanks for the link.

shammy718
01-23-2005, 12:23 AM
let's go, PITTSBURGH

Sid
01-23-2005, 01:20 AM
Hrm, I just saw your pics Shammy. You're pretty cute.

Decadent1
01-23-2005, 09:32 AM
No winners in Pennsylvania! It's the law.

Killjoy
01-23-2005, 09:33 AM
fuck the steelers in their yellow spandexed bottoms.

GO PATS!

'jim
01-23-2005, 02:17 PM
Will they win the SuperBowl? Probably not. But I'll take what I can get.

:D :D :D


Eagles - Steelers

FDM
01-23-2005, 03:07 PM
fuck pittsburg right in their steel-workin' asses.

10-0 WHAT?!

FDM
01-23-2005, 03:07 PM
shitty josh miller punt.

i tentatively retract my statement. :(

jinzoningen
01-23-2005, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by funkydrunknmonk
fuck pittsburg right in their steel-workin' asses.

10-0 WHAT?!

10-3 right now... Pittsburgh playing right into New England's hands. Stubbornly (and predictably) trying to run the ball inside the tackles on 1st and 2nd downs. Leaving Big Ben with 3rd and longs. If Cowher doesn't adjust, the Pats will cakewalk into the Super Bowl.

Killjoy
01-23-2005, 03:37 PM
17-3

*crossing every crossable body part

FDM
01-23-2005, 03:37 PM
you mean 17-3.

FDM
01-23-2005, 03:38 PM
haha, you stole my zinger you lameass lamewad.

FDM
01-23-2005, 03:45 PM
24-3.

you're next, philly.

Decadent1
01-23-2005, 04:05 PM
Brady is my lady.

golivar
01-23-2005, 04:40 PM
the pats have pretty much shut down staley and bettis, but the steelers are also self destructing with these turnovers and shitty penalties.

the pats got lucky with that 3rd & 17 that turned into a 1st & 10 because of that steelers holding call.

shammy718
01-23-2005, 05:05 PM
31-17 now.

Killjoy
01-23-2005, 05:38 PM
CHYEAH BOIIIIIIII!

shammy718
01-23-2005, 06:09 PM
the steelers got manhandled. congrats to the pats.

FDM
01-23-2005, 06:18 PM
can you say......

DYNASTY???

:D

shammy718
01-23-2005, 07:21 PM
i do like your coach. guides a disciplined team. btw, my brother says he's shoveling 2 feet of snow over there!

Sid
01-23-2005, 07:43 PM
Man, I actually thought Steelers had a chance in the 3rd quarter. So many things killed it. The holding penalty on third down, was huge. And seriously, turnovers killed Pittsburgh. I can't believe how few mistakes the Pats make on a consistant basis. I was hoping the Falcons would win, because I think Vick would at least pose some sort of challenge to Bellichick.

bones2380
01-23-2005, 10:22 PM
I hear Rocky music for the next two weeks I like Philly to win it this year.
Now if Freddie Mitchell would just shut up.

golivar
02-06-2005, 08:26 PM
it's a dynasty, bitches!

i was surprised that brady didn't seem to find a rhythm until the 3rd quarter or so. i wonder what happened. i was a bit disappointed with the pats performance tonight. but to me the real championsip was the title game against the steelers two weeks ago.

t.o. did a great job, but if it weren't for him, mcnabb would've ended up making more completions to patriots than eagles. and i was really puzzled with the eagles' offensive strategy in the 4th qtr. 10 pts down with 4 min left, and they took their sweet time lining up, no one was telling each other to move it. why didn't they at least use a no-huddle offense?

time to put the fur coat and fedora back into storage, freddie! you jackass.

'jim
02-07-2005, 11:24 AM
Eagles did better than I thought they would.

'jim
02-07-2005, 01:17 PM
they will never be DA BEARS!

http://cm.urbnmix.net/archives/2004/11/chicago_bears_s.html

golivar
02-14-2005, 09:54 PM
freddie mitchell, still shooting his mouth off (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/02/13/mmqb/index.html)

jinzoningen
02-15-2005, 07:39 AM
I bet FredEx isn't gonna be on the Eagles roster next season.

shammy718
02-23-2005, 03:35 PM
moss to go to the raiders???

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3415820?GT1=6190


i'd be happy!

windchillFactor
02-23-2005, 05:38 PM
It is hard to imagine him not causing a fuss somewhere with a recently underachieving QB problem. Tho, I guess he can make an average QB look really good with his ability to just pick the ball out of the sky.

Although it would never happen, I'd kinda like to see him in Philly with TO.

jinzoningen
04-07-2005, 02:47 PM
Robbins is like the Incredible Hulk or something...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2031475

shammy718
04-07-2005, 03:43 PM
^i have a soft spot for that guy.

jinzoningen
04-08-2005, 08:23 AM
^He's unreal. Defensive linemen, cops and bullets cannot stop him. His only kryptonite is bipolar disorder.

shammy718
04-23-2005, 10:38 AM
mike williams to go to the lions. they now have roy williams, carlos rogers AND mike williams!

jinzoningen
04-23-2005, 11:07 AM
^Williams was kind of a dumb pick. He's a good player for sure, but the Lions had other needs. And I think you mean Charles Rogers?

shammy718
04-23-2005, 11:34 AM
yep, i did. and they do have other needs. we'll see if he'll still help them i good ways though.

golivar
04-23-2005, 03:13 PM
wow aaron rodgers looked like he was gonna cry at one point. he must've breathed a huge sigh or relief when the packers picked him.

i wonder why the niners passed him over for smith.

Malosi
04-23-2005, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Robbins is like the Incredible Hulk or something...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2031475

it's hard for me to not say that that's awesome.

jinzoningen
04-23-2005, 04:53 PM
So far I think Dallas, Arizona and Baltimore have made the smartest picks. Dallas especially-- looks like they already picked up 3 starters on defense.

I also like Philly's first round pick of Mike Patterson. Barring injury, he's gonna see a lot of playing time as a rook.

shammy718
08-06-2005, 10:17 PM
you gave us some good years, rich:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/nfl/20050806-0902-fbn-raiders-gannonretires.html

jinzoningen
09-07-2005, 09:57 AM
Denver -4.5 over MIAMI
Cincinnati -3.5 over CLEVELAND
NY Jets +3 over KANSAS CITY
St. Louis -4.5 over SAN FRANCISCO
BALTIMORE +3 over Indianapolis

golivar
09-07-2005, 01:39 PM
what ever happened to todd marinovich?

jinzoningen
09-07-2005, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by golivar
what ever happened to todd marinovich?

He's in rehab.

golivar
09-07-2005, 03:12 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/football/2001-12-26-allusa-marinovich.htm

sounds like your typical "lost childhood leads to troubled adulthood" story.

Charlie
09-07-2005, 03:16 PM
Week 1 is a tough call because you still don't have a feel for the teams and what they can and cannot do. I was in Vegas this time last year and lost over $500 on near parlays and a Monday Night game in which I bet against Brett Favre. Never again. Anyway, here are my picks for Week 1:

Oakland +7.5 over NEW ENGLAND
Denver -4.5 over MIAMI
Cincinnati -3.5 over CLEVELAND
Houston +5 over BUFFALO
Tennessee +7 over PITTSBURGH
WASHINGTON -6 over Chicago
CAROLINA -7 over New Orleans
Tampa Bay +6 over MINNESOTA
Seattle +3 over JACKSONVILLE
KANSAS CITY -3 over NY Jets
Arizona +2.5 over NY GIANTS
St. Louis -5 over SAN FRANCISCO
Green Bay +3 over DETROIT
Dallas +4.5 over SAN DIEGO
BALTIMORE +3 over Indianapolis
ATLANTA +1 over Philadelphia

shammy718
09-07-2005, 06:26 PM
pulling for the raiders*

Charlie
09-07-2005, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by shammy718
pulling for the raiders*

You know I am too Shammy ;)

They should be a fun team to watch this year especially with all their offensive weapons. It seems like everyone is picking them to finish in the cellar of the AFC West this year. But looking at their shedule, I think they can win 10 games if they can overcome the brutal start of their schedule. I think the Chargers will fall off. And Denver is overrated. Offensively, I think the Raiders are on par with the Chiefs. The two times they play will be wild shootouts. Both of their defenses equally suck. The champion of the AFC West will come down to which defense will suck less.

jinzoningen
09-08-2005, 09:06 AM
I'm beginning to hate the Patriots. So yeah, pulling for da Raiduhz too.

Hap
09-08-2005, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
Week 1 is a tough call because you still don't have a feel for the teams and what they can and cannot do.

8 dogs on the road? 13 road teams?

Wowsers.

jinzoningen
09-08-2005, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
Week 1 is a tough call because you still don't have a feel for the teams and what they can and cannot do.

I would think it's easier to beat the spread early on because the lines aren't based on anything except hype.

Salami Swami
09-08-2005, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
I'm beginning to hate the Patriots. So yeah, pulling for da Raiduhz too.
Welcome to the real world!
I'm glad not everyone likes the Pats.
Fuck them anyway, don't get me started on how their "dynasty" was born because of the snow job tuck rule game.

ANYWAY, that shit is history.
Tonight is now.
I really hope the Raiders can keep up defensively.
Oakland should be fine offensively unless Collins starts getting nervous and throwing gift wrapped picks like he's known to do sometimes, although their O-line seems to be a lot better from what I have seen of the starters in preseason.

Moss will score tonight.
That's my prediction for the game.
They may not beat the champs in their own house, but Moss will score, and maybe more than once.
He's going to do that a lot this year.

jinzoningen
09-08-2005, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Salami Swami

Welcome to the real world!
I'm glad not everyone likes the Pats.


I don't dislike them as a team. They actually seem to be quite a humble champion by pro sports standards. They don't really show a lot of flash and talk a lot of trash. The reason I'm beginning to hate them is because the sports media are collectively sucking Patriot cock right now. If you look at ESPN and SI, almost all their football writers are predicting another championship for NE. I just don't think it'll happen. They lost too much in Crennel, Weiss and the heart and soul of the defense, Tedy Bruschi.

I think the Jets will win the AFC East.



Originally posted by Salami Swami

They may not beat the champs in their own house, but Moss will score, and maybe more than once.


If he scores more than once, chances are da Raiduhz will pull off the upset. Should be an interesting game, and I hope it's not a blowout.

atomicscissors
09-08-2005, 05:08 PM
Did they air the Raiders coming on to the field or did I just miss it?

I'm assuming they purposely didn't air it since after all the flag-waving and the "This Land was made for you and me" bullshit, they wouldn't want America seeing Pats fans boo and curse the shit out of the Raiders. Weak.

Let's go Raiders!!!

FDM
09-08-2005, 05:28 PM
lets go pats. i have a feeling it'll be a fairly tight game, specially with our semi-weakened defense.....no teddy johnson *or* tedy bruschi up the middle this year....

FDM
09-08-2005, 05:29 PM
ps: fuck a randy moss. there i said it.

shammy718
09-08-2005, 09:00 PM
some key mistakes made but not a blowout either. defense needs some refining but i'll be watching every raider game this season.

Charlie
09-08-2005, 09:06 PM
Man, I am disgusted. Why do the Raiders always shoot themselves in the foot with all those penalties? They have different personnel every year and yet they always seem to be among the league leaders in penalties.

Aside from the penalties, Tom Brady seemed to pick them apart for most of the game. Kerry Collins had that long stretch where he just seemed flustered and couldn't do shit. Then he had that fumble/interception which turned the whole game around.

Some positives: The Raiders run defense looked a lot better than last year (except for those two Dillon TD's). Moss had that big play which we were looking for (but a couple of dropped passes as well). I liked the way Jordan ran the ball, although they should have spelled him more with Zach Crockett. Jordan seemed drained towards the end of the game.

Conclusion: What are you going to do? I really didn't expect them to win in Foxboro. The Pats are pretty much the same team from last year maybe even better which is scary. Hopefully, the Raiders won't dwell on this too much cuz their next few games are pretty tough. They need to bounce back with the quickness. It's a slippery slope when you start losing.

atomicscissors
09-08-2005, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by shammy718
some key mistakes made but not a blowout either. defense needs some refining but i'll be watching every raider games this season.

As they say in AnimeLand: "Mm!"

Salami Swami
09-08-2005, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by Charlie
Man, I am disgusted. Why do the Raiders always shoot themselves in the foot with all those penalties? They have different personnel every year and yet they always seem to be among the league leaders in penalties.

Aside from the penalties, Tom Brady seemed to pick them apart for most of the game. Kerry Collins had that long stretch where he just seemed flustered and couldn't do shit. Then he had that fumble/interception which turned the whole game around.

Some positives: The Raiders run defense looked a lot better than last year (except for those two Dillon TD's). Moss had that big play which we were looking for (but a couple of dropped passes as well). I liked the way Jordan ran the ball, although they should have spelled him more with Zach Crockett. Jordan seemed drained towards the end of the game.

Conclusion: What are you going to do? I really didn't expect them to win in Foxboro. The Pats are pretty much the same team from last year maybe even better which is scary. Hopefully, the Raiders won't dwell on this too much cuz their next few games are pretty tough. They need to bounce back with the quickness. It's a slippery slope when you start losing.
You pretty much summed up what I would have said about this game.

Another positive though was that blocked punt that the Raiders got late in the game, and also that one time when they stopped the Pats on 4th and short.

Yeah, Collins fell apart in the second half alright. But three TD passes and only one pick? I'll take it I guess. That averages out to 48 TDs and 16 INTs! Hahahaha. I can dream.

I knew Moss would score at least once, even though he almost dropped that shit I was hyped.

It still makes me beyond sick to think that the Raiders could have and should have gotten Corey Dillon when he left Cincinatti, they had that deal basically done but somehow managed to fuck it up. Anyway, Jordan looked great, it's been a loooooong time since the Raiders had a back look that good. He should have a really productive year.

Penalties?
What else is new?
I'm basically immune to that shit by now, but it still never ceases to amaze me.

All in all, you can't expect too much against the champs at home, I mean they've won 21 straight there for a reason.
It could have been closer, but a loss is a loss.

Rest of the season should be interesting!

jinzoningen
09-09-2005, 08:37 AM
The Raiders look like an 8-8 team. They make too many stupid mistakes but yet they have decent talent. They will be competitive this season, because their offense alone should keep them in games.

Charlie
09-09-2005, 09:56 AM
My predictions for the season:

AFC
EAST: New England
NORTH: Baltimore
SOUTH: Indianapolis
WEST: Oakland*
Wildcards: Jacksonville, Cincinnati

*I still think the Raiders can win the weak West with 10 wins. I don't think Trent Green will last the whole season, and when he goes down, KC is screwed.

NFC
EAST: Philadelphia
NORTH: Minnesota
SOUTH: Carolina
WEST: St. Louis
Wildcards: Atlanta, Dallas

AFC Championship: Indianapolis vs. Baltimore
NFC Championship: Minnestoa vs. Carolina
Super Bowl: Baltimore vs. Carolina
Champions: Carolina*

*Defense wins championships. Carolina seems to be the trendy pick but I think they can back it up. Especially with Julius Peppers on their team.

MVP: Jake Delhomme (toss up between him and Tom Brady, but I think Delhomme will have the type of season Drew Brees had last year).

Defensive MVP: Julius Peppers (this guy is just sick!)

Rookie of the Year: Artelle Rolle

jinzoningen
09-09-2005, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
My predictions for the season:

*Defense wins championships. Carolina seems to be the trendy pick but I think they can back it up. Especially with Julius Peppers on their team.

I think the Eagles are gonna win the NFC again. They are just too good on defense.


Originally posted by Charlie

MVP: Jake Delhomme (toss up between him and Tom Brady, but I think Delhomme will have the type of season Drew Brees had last year).

Some might argue that Delhomme actually had a better year than Brees last year considering Delhomme had almost nothing to work with due to injuries. And Delhomme had 29 TDs vs. Brees' 27.



Originally posted by Charlie

Rookie of the Year: Artelle Rolle

NFC Defensive Rookie of the year: DeMarcus Ware, Dallas

jinzoningen
09-09-2005, 10:07 AM
Oh yeah, and I believe his name is "Antrel", not "Artelle".

Malosi
09-11-2005, 12:12 PM
chiefs almost shut out the jets, but they got a touchdown in the last 29 seconds.

i think the chiefs defense did a hell of a lot better, but it's also hard to measure because the jets kind of fucked it up for themselves with fumbles, penalties, drops, etc.

Charlie
09-11-2005, 03:26 PM
Arrowhead is a tough place to play. Priest and LJ are a sick one, two punch. Their offensive line is still as dominant as ever. We'll see how that defense fairs next week against Moss and the Raiders in Oakland. Should be a fun shootout. I think these two teams are pretty evenly matched.

Boy was I wrong on some of my picks. Good thing I wasn't in Vegas this year.

jinzoningen
09-13-2005, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Denver -4.5 over MIAMI L
Cincinnati -3.5 over CLEVELAND W
NY Jets +3 over KANSAS CITY L
St. Louis -4.5 over SAN FRANCISCO L
BALTIMORE +3 over Indianapolis L

Wow, 1-4. Pathetic.

jinzoningen
09-13-2005, 02:38 PM
Jacksonville +9 over INDIANAPOLIS
Buffalo +2.5 over TAMPA BAY
Atlanta E over SEATTLE
San Diego +3 over DENVER
DALLAS -6 over Washington

Charlie
09-16-2005, 09:05 AM
TENNESSEE +3.5 over Baltimore
Pittsburgh -6 over HOUSTON
Jacksonville +9 over INDIANAPOLIS
Detroit -1 over CHICAGO
CINCINNATI -3 over Minnesota
San Francisco +13.5 over PHILADELPHIA
TAMPA BAY -2.5 over Buffalo
CAROLINA +3 over New England
Atlanta PK over SEATTLE
ARIZONA PK over St. Louis
Miami +6 over NY JETS
Cleveland +6.5 over GREEN BAY
DENVER -3 over San Diego
OAKLAND +1 over Kansas City
DALLAS -6 over Washington
New Orleans +3 over NY GIANTS

jinzoningen
09-20-2005, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Jacksonville +9 over INDIANAPOLIS W
Buffalo +2.5 over TAMPA BAY L
Atlanta E over SEATTLE L
San Diego +3 over DENVER P
DALLAS -6 over Washington L

1-3-1 this week

2-7-1 overall

I suck.

Hap
09-20-2005, 01:15 PM
I won my girlfriend's office pool by going 12-4. No spread.

Charlie
09-23-2005, 09:52 AM
I'm not even gonna tally my record for the first two weeks. Like Jinz, I suck. So, let's start on a clean slate for Week 3.

Tennessee +6.5 over ST. LOUIS
Oakland +7.5 over PHILADELPHIA
Cincinnati –3 over CHICAGO
Jacksonville +2.5 over NY JETS
New Orleans +3.5 over MINNESOTA
Carolina –3 over MIAMI
Cleveland +13.5 over INDIANAPOLIS
BUFFALO –1 over Atlanta
Tampa Bay –3.5 over GREEN BAY
SEATTLE –6 over Arizona
PITTSBURGH –3 over New England
SAN FRANCISCO +6.5 over Dallas
NY Giants +5.5 over SAN DIEGO
Kansas City +3 over DENVER

jinzoningen
09-23-2005, 10:18 AM
Tennessee +6 over ST. LOUIS
PHILADELPHIA -8.5 over Oakland
Tampa Bay -3 over GREEN BAY
NY Giants +5.5 over SAN DIEGO

charlos3000
09-23-2005, 11:21 AM
ST. LOUIS over Tennessee +6.5
PHILADELPHIA over Oakland +7.5
Cincinnati –3 over CHICAGO
Jacksonville +2.5 over NY JETS
MINNESOTA +3.5 over New Orleans
Carolina –3 over MIAMI
Atlanta over BUFFALO –1
Tampa Bay –3.5 over GREEN BAY
SEATTLE –6 over Arizona
Dallas over SAN FRANCISCO +6.5
NY Giants +5.5 over SAN DIEGO
Kansas City +3 over DENVER

overEZ
09-25-2005, 12:38 PM
Culpepper finally came thru.
i got Brooks (my fantasy team) and was debating whether to play Brooks and bench Culpepper, but I'm glad i stuck wit my star player

shammy718
09-25-2005, 09:44 PM
man, that janikowski...

Malosi
09-26-2005, 06:19 PM
kansas city looking sloppy... too many penalties... the broncos have nuff receivers.

Phong-One
09-26-2005, 06:21 PM
Fuck all of you who dismissed the San Diego Chargers. Bolts are back, baby...

Sorry, it's over for the Raiders.

Charlie
09-26-2005, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by Phong-One
Fuck all of you who dismissed the San Diego Chargers. Bolts are back, baby...

Sorry, it's over for the Raiders.

The Raiders got shafted on the scheduling. How they gonna make a team that finished as poorly as they did last year face the Super Bowl representatives in two of their first three games? If we switched the Bengals' schedule with the Raiders' schedule I'm pretty sure the Raiders would be 3-0 and the Bengals would be 0-3. But whatever. That's the NFL. I guarantee a victory next week against the Cowboys. The Raiders are only a game behind the Bolts and two behind the Broncos and Chiefs. It's a long season, man. Anything can happen. I still think the Raiders are much better than last year's team, but I guess that's not saying much. And the Bolts are overrated. I can't believe Schotty still has a coaching job after all these years of choking in the playoffs. LT is the Truth though.

charlos3000
09-26-2005, 09:37 PM
5-7 w/ spread

9-3 without

golivar
09-26-2005, 10:37 PM
steelers fans get bored when cowher blows yet another big game (http://www.cs.unm.edu/~wneumann/images/peanut.gif)

Malosi
09-26-2005, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Charlie
I can't believe Schotty still has a coaching job after all these years of choking in the playoffs.


i like schottenheimer, but he's not championship material. he creates teams that are really, really good, but not teams that have an appetite for destruction.

from what i know... and most of my chiefs-fan-dom was during schottenheimer's coaching here... he wants a well-rounded team, with a bench that's damn near as good as the starters.... which makes average players better towards the end of the game when they're not tired...


it sounds great to me in theory. but it's just too conservative usually. couple that with a will to punish the other team, and you've got something... but he plays it safe too much when he's ahead, i think. anyway.

jinzoningen
09-27-2005, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Tennessee +6 over ST. LOUIS W
PHILADELPHIA -8.5 over Oakland L
Tampa Bay -3 over GREEN BAY L
NY Giants +5.5 over SAN DIEGO L

Holy shit, 1-3 this week, 3-10-1 overall. I suck really really hard!

Phong-One
09-27-2005, 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Malosi



i like schottenheimer, but he's not championship material. he creates teams that are really, really good, but not teams that have an appetite for destruction.

from what i know... and most of my chiefs-fan-dom was during schottenheimer's coaching here... he wants a well-rounded team, with a bench that's damn near as good as the starters.... which makes average players better towards the end of the game when they're not tired...


it sounds great to me in theory. but it's just too conservative usually. couple that with a will to punish the other team, and you've got something... but he plays it safe too much when he's ahead, i think. anyway.

At least we agree on one thing, Malosi. Marty-Ball does indeed suck. For some reason, I do still respect him as a coach though.

jinzoningen
09-27-2005, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Phong-One


At least we agree on one thing, Malosi. Marty-Ball does indeed suck. For some reason, I do still respect him as a coach though.

One thing about the Chargers though, they are putting up some great numbers for fantasy footballers-- LT... Gates... Brees... McCardell.

Charlie
09-27-2005, 11:45 AM
Vinny's (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ajgfs79lhJHkwLeGaw6lckJDubYF?slug=ap-jets-testaverde&prov=ap&type=lgns)
back in New York. The Jets are hurtin but I don't think Vinny is that much of a downgrade from Chad. At least, Vinny's got a gun not that water pistol Chad calls an arm. And Vinny threw for over 3500 yards last year. Sports radio in NY has been brutal to Chad. The only problem with Vinny at QB is his lack of mobility. Defenses are gonna eat him up in the pocket with the Jets' suspect O-Line.

Now, my only dilemma is which defense to start this Sunday on my fantasy team:

Baltimore at home against Brooks Bollinger and the Jets

or

Tampa Bay at home against Harrington and the Lions.

golivar
09-27-2005, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen


One thing about the Chargers though, they are putting up some great numbers for fantasy footballers-- LT... Gates... Brees... McCardell.

figures. i don't have any of them. though oddly enough matt hasselbeck seems to be doing pretty well for me. and chad johnson.

Phong-One
09-27-2005, 11:53 AM
Vinny Testaverde is still alive? How long has that fool been in the NFL?

jinzoningen
09-27-2005, 11:56 AM
I know Mariucci was trying out Jeff George at one point. Not sure what happened with that though. Seems Harrington's days as a Lion are numbered.

jinzoningen
09-27-2005, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by golivar


figures. i don't have any of them. though oddly enough matt hasselbeck seems to be doing pretty well for me. and chad johnson.

I have CJ as well and Gates. Both are pretty consistent guys who are scoring threats. My safety (Harrison) is already done for the year though, which bummed me out.

golivar
09-27-2005, 03:49 PM
i don't have harrison on my fantasy team (we only pick whole defenses), but I'm still bummed because i'm a pats fan. first bruschi, then light and harrison. harrison is definitely one of the team leaders for those guys.

i can still vividly remember watching 'canes games with testaverde back in the late '80s. i'm gettin' old son!

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 09:15 AM
JACKSONVILLE -4 over Denver
Philadelphia +2.5 over KANSAS CITY
TAMPA BAY -6.5 over Detroit
NY GIANTS -3 over St. Louis
Dallas +3 over CHOAKLAND
San Francisco +2.5 over Arizona (at Mexico)

Charlie
09-28-2005, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen

Dallas +3 over CHOAKLAND


Hey! Now that's just uncalled for. Kick 'em while they're down why don't you. They will not lose to Dallas this week. And they'll cover the spread. Dallas barely beat the crappy 49ers. I predict Moss will go off for 3 TD's.

Charlie
09-28-2005, 11:58 AM
I seem to do really well in the early games then fizzle out after 4 o'clock on Sunday. My record still sucks, but oh well. Here goes...

NEW ENGLAND -5 over San Diego
JACKSONVILLE -4 over Denver
CINCINNATI -9.5 over Houston
TENNESSEE +6.5 over Indianapolis
KANSAS CITY -2.5 over Philadelphia
Detroit +7 over TAMPA BAY
NY GIANTS -3 over St. Louis
NEW ORLEANS PK over Buffalo
Seattle +2 over WASHINGTON
NY Jets +7.5 over BALTIMORE
ATLANTA -5.5 over Minnesota
OAKLAND -3 over Dallas
San Francisco +3 over ARIZONA
Green Bay +7.5 over CAROLINA*

Never bet against Brett Farvre on Monday Night. I learned my lesson the hard way last year with this same matchup in Week 1. Lost $300 on that game.

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Charlie


Hey! Now that's just uncalled for. Kick 'em while they're down why don't you. They will not lose to Dallas this week. And they'll cover the spread. Dallas barely beat the crappy 49ers. I predict Moss will go off for 3 TD's.

Choakland would be 3-0 right now if not for their shitty fatass kicker and all the stupid penalties. But what can I say, same ol' story, different year.

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Charlie

Never bet against Brett Farvre on Monday Night. I learned my lesson the hard way last year with this same matchup in Week 1. Lost $300 on that game.

This would be the year I'd bet against Favre. The Packers could very well be the worst team in the NFL this year.

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 12:41 PM
Hey Charlie, check this out. This guy really seems to have it in for the Raiders and their fans. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jay_mohr/09/28/mohr.sports/index.html)

Charlie
09-28-2005, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Hey Charlie, check this out. This guy really seems to have it in for the Raiders and their fans. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/jay_mohr/09/28/mohr.sports/index.html)

What an asshole. Since when did Jay Mohr become an expert on sports? And what editor let this garbage print? I can't stand sports reporters sometimes. All they do is bitch all the time.

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Charlie


What an asshole. Since when did Jay Mohr become an expert on sports? And what editor let this garbage print? I can't stand sports reporters sometimes. All they do is bitch all the time.

I think his intent was to inflame, and judging by your reaction he was quite effective.

shammy718
09-28-2005, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen


Choakland would be 3-0 right now if not for their shitty fatass kicker and all the stupid penalties. But what can I say, same ol' story, different year.


yeah, i'm not a fan of janikowski (or mohr for that matter).

i think things will get better for the raiders.

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by shammy718

i think things will get better for the raiders.

Nah, as long as they keep shooting themselves in the foot, I can't see them winning many games. Even without the penalties it's tough enough to win consistently in the NFL.

Salami Swami
09-28-2005, 02:38 PM
Yeah it's bullshit that the Raiders had to play NE and Philly two of their first three games, but that's life and they were actually in all three games until they did the inevitable.
By inevitable of course I mean the usual penalties and dumb shit and also Janikowski blowing some totally makeable kicks.
Fuck it, 0-3 sucks but it is a long season like Charlie said, even though 0-3 is a serious hole to climb out of they are only one game back of the highly touted Chargers, who look very human this year and two back of Denver and KC.
I think the Raiders can get to 8-8 or maybe even 9-7 if they get their shit together. It won't be good enough for the playoffs most likely but I didn't expect that this year anyway, as long as they actually try in games and don't fuck themselves in the ass like they have been doing, I'll be happy with some kind of improvement from the past couple of years.
Shit takes time, homie!

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Salami Swami

Fuck it, 0-3 sucks but it is a long season like Charlie said, even though 0-3 is a serious hole to climb out of they are only one game back of the highly touted Chargers, who look very human this year and two back of Denver and KC.


BTW, does anybody else watch Lamont Jordan, and think "damn, he looks kind of slow."

Salami Swami
09-28-2005, 02:48 PM
ALSO, Jay Mohr is usally pretty funny but I agree he should stick to what he knows, even if I wasn't a Raiders fan I would think that his writing was shiite.
2 gimmes?
Since when are 49 yard field goals gimmes?
Field goals of nearly 50 yards are supposed to be automatic?
Now missing a 37 yarder is one thing, and Jano should nail those easy, but fucking 49 yarders ain't no gimmes even if you are the Polish cannon.
Fuck that shit.

jinzoningen
09-28-2005, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Salami Swami

Now missing a 37 yarder is one thing, and Jano should nail those easy, but fucking 49 yarders ain't no gimmes even if you are the Polish cannon.


He's my kicker and he cost me a win this past Sunday. I'm still bitter about that.

Sid
09-29-2005, 11:31 AM
What does: Tn +6.5 over Indy mean? Versus Tn -6.5 over Indy?

jinzoningen
09-29-2005, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by Sid
What does: Tn +6.5 over Indy mean? Versus Tn -6.5 over Indy?

+ means Tennessee is the underdog-- they are 6.5 point dogs. Which means Indy has to win by 7 or more points for the bettor to cash in. But if you're taking Tennessee, that means they have to lose by 6 or less points for a winning bet.

Charlie
09-29-2005, 12:03 PM
TENNESSEE +6.5 means Tennessee is the underdog in that game and they are getting 6.5 points. So, whatever the final score is, add 6.5 points to Tennessee's total, and if that score is greater than their opponent's score (Indianapolis), then you win that bet. Vice versa for Indianapolis -6.5 since they are the favorites.

In my picks, I list the teams whom I think will win on the left-hand side. And the teams in ALL CAPS are the home teams.

shammy718
09-29-2005, 07:59 PM
norm chow, holla!

Charlie
10-02-2005, 05:54 PM
DA RAIDERS!!!

*high 5's to Shammy and Swami*

jinzoningen
10-03-2005, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
JACKSONVILLE -4 over Denver L
Philadelphia +2.5 over KANSAS CITY W
TAMPA BAY -6.5 over Detroit L
NY GIANTS -3 over St. Louis W
Dallas +3 over CHOAKLAND L
San Francisco +2.5 over Arizona (at Mexico) L

2-4 this week, 5-14-1 overall.

I swear, people could make money off my picks by going the opposite way.

jinzoningen
10-03-2005, 08:11 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
DA RAIDERS!!!

*high 5's to Shammy and Swami*

About time that fatass Janikowski came through for me. 13 points!

Malosi
10-03-2005, 12:48 PM
the chiefs are really choking. one man down in the offensive line and you'd think they all got the plague.

plus larry johnson ain't as good as some people thought he was.... runs too vertically... that's two crucial fumbles in two games.

jinzoningen
10-03-2005, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Malosi

plus larry johnson ain't as good as some people thought he was.... runs too vertically... that's two crucial fumbles in two games.

I think if LJ played for another team, he'd be pretty mediocre. The KC line makes mere mortals look like fantasy football gods.

Salami Swami
10-03-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Charlie
DA RAIDERS!!!

*high 5's to Shammy and Swami*
High five!
Down low...
How 'bout crosstown?
Can you bird it? Can you do the bird?
Can you wiggle it??
That's OK, we'll work on it.

Sorry I love that commercial for some stupid reason.


Bubb Rubb is like
"The whistles go
WOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!"

It's about time.

And call me crazy, I HATE the Chargers almost as much as the Chiefs or the Broncos, but I was giggling soooo hard when they destroyed New England.
Hahahahahaha the Raiders as bad as they've looked are exactly one game behind the Patsies one quarter into the season!
Yeah I can call them Patsies, they sure looked like it yesterday.

shawgirl74
10-03-2005, 05:38 PM
hehe, i love Bubb Rubb

but i love the chiefs too :p

jinzoningen
10-05-2005, 08:23 AM
Seattle +3 over ST. LOUIS
New England +3 over ATLANTA
Miami +2.5 over BUFFALO
Baltimore +1.5 over DETROIT
Philadelphia -3 over DALLAS

jinzoningen
10-11-2005, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Seattle +3 over ST. LOUIS W
New England +3 over ATLANTA W
Miami +2.5 over BUFFALO L
Baltimore +1.5 over DETROIT L
Philadelphia -3 over DALLAS L

This week: 2-3, overall: 7-17-1

One of these weeks I'll break .500.

jinzoningen
10-12-2005, 10:01 AM
Carolina +1 over DETROIT
Washington +6 over KC
New England +3 over DENVER
San Diego +2.5 over OAKLAND

shammy718
10-12-2005, 12:43 PM
rootin' for the raiders!

Sid
10-13-2005, 12:02 PM
I also pick SD and New England.

jinzoningen
10-13-2005, 12:48 PM
I figured it out. I think my picks are too logical, that's why they keep losing. If you want to, you can cash in on my picks by just going the opposite way.

golivar
10-13-2005, 05:23 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/golivar/randoms/NoBall_HM01.jpg


(photo © Rod Mar/The Seattle Times)

jinzoningen
10-18-2005, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Carolina +1 over DETROIT W
Washington +6 over KC L
New England +3 over DENVER L
San Diego +2.5 over OAKLAND W

This week: 2-2, overall: 9-19-1

jinzoningen
10-21-2005, 08:49 AM
Kansas City +1 over MIAMI
CHICAGO -1 over Baltimore
Denver +2 over NY GIANTS

shammy718
10-23-2005, 04:45 PM
a good win today for the raiders. nice to see rich gannon in the announcer's booth.

jinzoningen
10-25-2005, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Kansas City +1 over MIAMI W
CHICAGO -1 over Baltimore W
Denver +2 over NY GIANTS W

This week: 3-0!, overall: 12-19-1

jinzoningen
10-29-2005, 09:40 PM
Cleveland +2.5 over TEXAS
Jacksonville -3.5 over ST. LOUIS
Kansas City +6 over SAN DIEGO

FDM
10-30-2005, 04:35 PM
http://cache.boston.com/images/sports/patriots/2003/122703_tedy_800600.jpg

NOBODY FUCKS WIT DE FOOTBALL JESUS!!!

jinzoningen
11-02-2005, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Cleveland +2.5 over TEXAS L
Jacksonville -3.5 over ST. LOUIS L
Kansas City +6 over SAN DIEGO L

This week: 0-3, overall: 12-22-1

jinzoningen
11-02-2005, 11:00 AM
Carolina -1.5 over TAMPA BAY
MIAMI +2.5 over Atlanta
NEW ENGLAND +3.5 over Indianapolis

Charlie
11-02-2005, 02:07 PM
TAMPA BAY +1.5 over Carolina
Atlanta -2.5 over MIAMI
Indianapolis -3.5 over NEW ENGLAND

Football Jesus?? Puh-lease.

Salami Swami
11-02-2005, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty much feeling Indy over the Pats this weekend.
Not only because I want this to happen, but did you see how shitty the Patriots played Buffalo? The way Indy is playing, the Pats are gonna definitely have problems if they keep that up.

I'd really love to see the Raiders stick it to the Chiefs too, but you know how that one goes. Everytime they play it's an adventure.

Salami Swami
11-06-2005, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by Salami Swami
I'd really love to see the Raiders stick it to the Chiefs too, but you know how that one goes. Everytime they play it's an adventure.

Wow, did I say adventure?
I meant FUCKING EMBARRASSING TRAVESTY of an adventure.
My bad.

The Raiders never fail to give in K.C., and give so generously they did today.

How fucking pathetic was that last defensive series?
Right after Collins marched them down the field and Moss got his first catch of the game for a touchdown to go ahead, AND a two point conversion to go up by three with less than 2 minutes to play?

The Raiders defense fucking sucks sweaty, stanky, diseased, smegma encrusted elephant balls, and that's being generous.
HOWEVER, they did get completely robbed on that last defensive series where they got a sack and were flagged for tripping, total bullshit homer call, guy is getting pulled to the ground by the O-lineman and they call the defense for tripping? Oh well.

How does a team that possesses so much talent consistently find ways to fuck themselves in the ass?

I've been a Raiders fan since I was seven years old, and I have seen far worse displays of ineptitude and patheticness by the silver and black, but this is seriously fucking pissing me off.

I know there are worse teams in the NFL right now, but there is no excuse for the Raiders to be sucking the way they are.
:mad: :mad: :mad:

shammy718
11-06-2005, 08:14 PM
they've been losing so far by only a few points per game...that's what's sad. and they do get a helluva lot of calls against them. even though i'm not the biggest fan of kerry collins, he's been improving. the d needs to tighten up and put the fear back into opponents. if both the jets and they had won today, they'd be 2nd in the division. i'm still backin them despite it all though.

650lex
11-08-2005, 02:18 PM
WHAAAAAA!!!! (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/11/08/sports/s121821S87.DTL)

Malosi
11-10-2005, 10:41 PM
whatever, maybe i'm biased, but that raiders-chiefs game, or the 4th quarter anyway, was great, regardless of whether or not you're a fan of a particular side. i mean, yeah i guess it sucks for raiders fans in the same vein as any loss, but that was some entertainment there towards the end. edge of your seat shit.


plus, adding to the 'emotion' or whatever, it was cool for trent green to get a win like that after having to go to his dad's funeral.

jinzoningen
11-11-2005, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Carolina -1.5 over TAMPA BAY W
MIAMI +2.5 over Atlanta L
NEW ENGLAND +3.5 over Indianapolis L

This week: 1-2, overall: 13-24-1

jinzoningen
11-11-2005, 07:18 AM
Kansas City +2.5 over BUFFALO
Houston +18 over INDIANAPOLIS
Denver -3 over OAKLAND

Charlie
11-11-2005, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Kansas City +2.5 over BUFFALO
Houston +18 over INDIANAPOLIS
Denver -3 over OAKLAND

How is Buffalo favored over KC? Even without Priest, LJ is gonna run all over them. And Trent Green has been picking his game up the last few weeks. I see their passing game opening up with the loss of Priest which is good for me since I have Trent Green, Eddie Kennison and LJ on my fantasy team.

That's gotta be the biggest spread of the year on the Indy game. I would take the points as well since it's just too much to pass up.

DON'T SLEEP ON THE RAIDERS! This is do or die for them and I think they will step up at home against Denver.

jinzoningen
11-11-2005, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Charlie

That's gotta be the biggest spread of the year on the Indy game. I would take the points as well since it's just too much to pass up.


I'm just guessing, but I think Indy will come out flat for this game.

jinzoningen
11-11-2005, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Charlie

DON'T SLEEP ON THE RAIDERS! This is do or die for them and I think they will step up at home against Denver.

The Raiders are a bunch of screw ups. And that defense is atrocious.

shammy718
11-11-2005, 09:58 AM
heard yesterday that the tripping ruling at the end of last week's Raider game (the one that cost them the game) was ruled incorrect. i actually think they have some potential but get a lot of bad calls like this. hope they beat denver too.

Charlie
11-11-2005, 10:08 AM
Fantasy Question:

4 spots for 5 players. Who's the odd man out?

Moss vs. Denver
Porter vs. Denver
Jordan vs. Denver
Fitzgerald vs. DETROIT
Mike Anderson vs. OAKLAND

Right now, I have Anderson on the bench because Oakland is stout in the middle with Sapp and Washington and I think Denver is gonna ride Bell with runs to the outside. And I don't want to root for Anderson scoring on my team. But damn, it's tough knowing that the Raiders D sucks and having the #1 back in the league's 2nd best rushing offense. I think Oakland is gonna air it out and Porter's been hot. Moss is still hurt, but it's tough to bench him. Denver's pass D has not been too good. And I have Collins as my QB so it's double points if he connects with Moss or Porter.

Any thoughts? I think I just answered my question.

jinzoningen
11-11-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
Fantasy Question:

4 spots for 5 players. Who's the odd man out?

Moss vs. Denver
Porter vs. Denver
Jordan vs. Denver
Fitzgerald vs. DETROIT
Mike Anderson vs. OAKLAND

Right now, I have Anderson on the bench because Oakland is stout in the middle with Sapp and Washington and I think Denver is gonna ride Bell with runs to the outside. And I don't want to root for Anderson scoring on my team. But damn, it's tough knowing that the Raiders D sucks and having the #1 back in the league's 2nd best rushing offense. I think Oakland is gonna air it out and Porter's been hot. Moss is still hurt, but it's tough to bench him. Denver's pass D has not been too good. And I have Collins as my QB so it's double points if he connects with Moss or Porter.

Any thoughts? I think I just answered my question.

I'd go with Anderson. He gets ALL the goal line carries, and is more likely than Porter to score a TD.

jinzoningen
11-16-2005, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Kansas City +2.5 over BUFFALO L
Houston +18 over INDIANAPOLIS W
Denver -3 over OAKLAND W

This week: 2-1, overall: 15-25-1

jinzoningen
11-16-2005, 10:25 AM
Carolina -3 over CHICAGO
Tampa Bay +6 over ATLANTA
Miami +2.5 over CLEVELAND
NY Jets +13 over DENVER

jinzoningen
11-23-2005, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Carolina -3 over CHICAGO L
Tampa Bay +6 over ATLANTA W
Miami +2.5 over CLEVELAND L
NY Jets +13 over DENVER L

This week: 1-3, overall: 16-28-1

jinzoningen
11-23-2005, 09:29 AM
Atlanta -3 over DETROIT
Denver -2 over DALLAS
Chicago +3 over TAMPA BAY
Jacksonville -3 over ARIZONA

Sid
11-24-2005, 02:24 PM
Peter King's picks have been 91-65 this season. I wonder if anyone has done stats to see how successful he is against the spread. Are there others out there that consistantly beat the spread?

jinzoningen
11-29-2005, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Atlanta -3 over DETROIT W
Denver -2 over DALLAS W
Chicago +3 over TAMPA BAY W
Jacksonville -3 over ARIZONA W

This week: 4-0, overall: 20-28-1

jinzoningen
11-29-2005, 09:48 AM
Tennessee +16 over INDIANAPOLIS
Jacksonville -3 over CLEVELAND
Minnesota -3 over DETROIT
Washington -3 over ST. LOUIS
PHILADELPHIA +4 over Seattle

jinzoningen
12-08-2005, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen
Tennessee +16 over INDIANAPOLIS L
Jacksonville -3 over CLEVELAND W
Minnesota -3 over DETROIT W
Washington -3 over ST. LOUIS W
PHILADELPHIA +4 over Seattle L

This week: 3-2, overall: 23-30-1

jinzoningen
12-08-2005, 10:11 AM
Chicago +6 over PITTSBURGH
Oakland -3 over NY JETS
JACKSONVILLE +8 over Indianapolis

Charlie
12-08-2005, 10:22 AM
I think Indy will cover the 8 point spread. Garrard won't be able to keep up with Indy's offense.

I'm starting to think the Texans are losing their games on purpose, especially with their last two losses. They gave up a 21 point lead to St. Louis and a last second drive to Baltimore. They must really want Bush. Imagine the marketing with Bush on the Texans. This doesn't bode well for the Jets. But Leinart isn't a bad consolation prize. They need a big time QB with a big time arm. And they could drop Pennington and his ludicrous contract.

Fantasy question for Jinz: Which two of three should I start?

Larry Johnson vs. Dallas
Lamont Jordan vs. Jets
Mike Anderson vs. Baltimore

jinzoningen
12-08-2005, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
I think Indy will cover the 8 point spread. Garrard won't be able to keep up with Indy's offense.

Jax always plays Manning tuff. I don't expect Jax to win, but I think it will be close.



I'm starting to think the Texans are losing their games on purpose, especially with their last two losses. They gave up a 21 point lead to St. Louis and a last second drive to Baltimore. They must really want Bush. Imagine the marketing with Bush on the Texans. This doesn't bode well for the Jets. But Leinart isn't a bad consolation prize. They need a big time QB with a big time arm. And they could drop Pennington and his ludicrous contract.

I think Bush is better off with the Jets-- Better media exposure, and their offensive line will be healthy again next season. Texas is a dead end for any high draft pick. They got nothing going for themselves. And don't forget the Niners are still in contention for the #1 pick.





Fantasy question for Jinz: Which two of three should I start?

Larry Johnson vs. Dallas
Lamont Jordan vs. Jets
Mike Anderson vs. Baltimore

Geez, that's a tough one. You can't go wrong with any of these guys. Definitely start LJ, even though he's up against a tough D. I think between Jordan and Anderson I lean slightly to Jordan. Jordan will be highly motivated against his former teammates.

Charlie
12-08-2005, 11:04 AM
Thanks. I was leaning towards starting the two LJ's. I wonder who would have the first pick if the Texans, Niners and Jets all finished 2-14 which is highly probable. Since the Texans and Niners aren't in the market for a QB, the Jets would most likely end up with Leinart if they finished with the second or third pick. Although I've heard through some sports radio shows that Vince Young or Brady Quinn might possibly be better than Leinart.

jinzoningen
12-08-2005, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by Charlie
Although I've heard through some sports radio shows that Vince Young or Brady Quinn might possibly be better than Leinart.

Definitely Bush will be #1. Vince Young might be another McNair, but Brady Quinn seems more suited to be NFL-ready than Young. BTW, aren't Quinn and Young underclassmen? I can see Young coming out early if he wins the national championship, but Quinn will probably stay put.

Bush is only a junior too, but no point in risking injury by staying at SC another year. It's a no-brainer decision for him.

jinzoningen
12-08-2005, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen


Definitely Bush will be #1. Vince Young might be another McNair, but Brady Quinn seems more suited to be NFL-ready than Young. BTW, aren't Quinn and Young underclassmen? I can see Young coming out early if he wins the national championship, but Quinn will probably stay put.

Bush is only a junior too, but no point in risking injury by staying at SC another year. It's a no-brainer decision for him.

speaking of... (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/don_banks/12/08/bush.leinart/index.html)

Malosi
12-08-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen PHILADELPHIA +4 over Seattle [/B]

was there reasoning behind this, or just the ol' "underdog" thing?




p.s. go with lamont jordan. the raiders are starting tuiasosopo, and will probably rely on the run a little.

l-train8
12-08-2005, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Malosi

Originally posted by jinzoningen
PHILADELPHIA +4 over Seattle

was there reasoning behind this, or just the ol' "underdog" thing?


Yeah, what the hell? How come no one is giving the Seahawks respect this season. I know that the Seahawks have started strong and then petered out several times in past years. I know they've had some easy games on the schedule this year. But they've had some tough ones, too, and they've won. What do you have to do to convince people you are for real?


Watching them demolish the Eagles on MNF, I was amazed at the commentary by Madden and Michaels. It was like they weren't watching the same game. The 'Hawks are 10-2, lead the NFC, and were dismantling a team that went to the superbowl last year. Michaels said, "You still don't know about this team, and it might be awhile before you know about 'em." The most Madden could say was "I don't know if Seattle's defense is good enough to be a championship defense, but they have a lot of guys with good motors. Once you get guys playing fast and playing hard, good things can happen." Not good enough to be a championship defense? They fucking defense scored three touchdowns, and turned the ball over to the offense on the 1 yard line! The Eagles only crossed midfield twice in the whole game, once they got all the way to the Seahawks 48 yard line, the other time was in the last minute of the fourth quarter when the game was already decided. What the fuck do you have to do to convince John Madden that you have a championship defense?

I know people from Seattle always whine about how our teams get no respect, so I should probably shut the hell up. We've had lots of crappy teams for lots of years, and not just in football. We're far away from everyone else in the league, so no one thinks much about us. I get all that. But I've been a 'Hawks fan since I was 10 years old and they came into existence. I suffered through a decade of horrible ownership that tried to destroy the team. And now, it is finally our time. Finally our moment in the sun. And it pisses me off that no one seems to notice.

Malosi
12-08-2005, 08:55 PM
i think madden and michaels were 1) getting ready for seattle vs. indy, 2) talking about how the seahawks success is relatively sudden, and wanting to see if they have what it takes to go a few seasons..


i'm down with the seahawks this year. especially now that they're in the nfc. and have a hamo or two.

the colts/seahawks game is probably going to be the best game of the season.


i've seen some good ones this year though.

golivar
12-08-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by jinzoningen


Definitely Bush will be #1. Vince Young might be another McNair, but Brady Quinn seems more suited to be NFL-ready than Young. BTW, aren't Quinn and Young underclassmen? I can see Young coming out early if he wins the national championship, but Quinn will probably stay put.

Bush is only a junior too, but no point in risking injury by staying at SC another year. It's a no-brainer decision for him.

i agree with you about young and quinn. he's most likely going to stay another year and help the current irish team reach their full potential under weis. that'll only make him even more attractive in the 2007 draft.

i think young throws weird. he doesn't have a normal follow-through and he sometimes makes these strange sidearm throws. i wonder what the nfl scouts think of that.

my prediction for leinart is: he'll get drafted as a backup then spend a couple seasons on the sidelines, by then he'll get frustrated and quit football to head back to LA and try to land cameo roles on charmed or some other WB show. which is probably want he really wants to do anyway. hehe.

shammy718
12-08-2005, 10:38 PM
^hahaha. did carson palmer wait around 2 years before he got to play? wouldn't it be interesting if leinart went to the rams?

jinzoningen
12-09-2005, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by shammy718
^hahaha. did carson palmer wait around 2 years before he got to play? wouldn't it be interesting if leinart went to the rams?

Leinhart doesn't have the howitzer cannon arm that Palmer does, so he'll need to be drafted by the "right" team to flourish.

jinzoningen
12-09-2005, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Malosi


was there reasoning behind this, or just the ol' "underdog" thing?


I would've been more impressed if you had posted this before the game.

l-train8
12-09-2005, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by Malosi


the colts/seahawks game is probably going to be the best game of the season.


If you'd asked me two weeks ago, when I got my tickets for that game, I would've agreed. Unfortunately, now it won't be. Both teams have clinched their division championship, and unless something goes horribly wrong, will have clinched the homefield for the playoffs by then.

Tony Dungy has already said he doesn't care about 16-0, only about winning the superbowl. Manning won't play more than the first half against the 'Hawks. The 'Hawks don't even have the perfect record to fight for, so once they clinch homefield advantage through the playoffs, they will be resting their starters and not caring about winning also.

l-train8
12-09-2005, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by jinzoningen


I would've been more impressed if you had posted this before the game.

True, there were plenty of people who thought the Eagles had a chance. The resons were many:

the TO distraction was behind the Eagles

this game was huge for them, because a win against a strong team like the Seahawks could turn their season around and put them back in the playoff hunt

Seattle plays a lot of games against the inferior NFC West, so their record looks better than it might really be

Seattle has historically collapsed after an impressive first half of the season

I'm more pissed off that, when the 'Hawks were kicking Eagle ass, when they were up 42-0, when this was happening right in front of their fucking eyes, Madden and Michaels still couldn't give the Seahawks credit.

jinzoningen
12-09-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by l-train8


If you'd asked me two weeks ago, when I got my tickets for that game, I would've agreed. Unfortunately, now it won't be. Both teams have clinched their division championship, and unless something goes horribly wrong, will have clinched the homefield for the playoffs by then.

Tony Dungy has already said he doesn't care about 16-0, only about winning the superbowl. Manning won't play more than the first half against the 'Hawks. The 'Hawks don't even have the perfect record to fight for, so once they clinch homefield advantage through the playoffs, they will be resting their starters and not caring about winning also.

It might be a Superbowl preview, so maybe if the two teams clinched home field by then, they'll treat it more like a preseason game so as not to expose too much of their tendencies?

l-train8
12-09-2005, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by Charlie
I am not impressed with Seattle. In my opinion, they are the 4th best team...in the NFC! They play in the weakest division in the League with the easiest schedule and they should have lost to the Cowboys and Giants if it weren't for bonehead Bledsoe and the shook Jay Feely. They will lose in the second round of the playoffs to the Giants or Chicago who will most likely host the Wild Cards. I think Carolina will have the other first round bye.

I'm not going to argue (too much). They are in a weak division and they have won some games on lucky breaks. But for too many years I've been saying the exact opposite of your comment. Instead of saying ,"if it weren't for a blown play here or there by Feely or Bledsoe, the Seahawks wouldn't have that great a record," it's been, " a couple breaks here or there in some close games, and the Seahawks would've been 10-6, not 7-9. "

The truth is, in the NFL, if you're a good team, you put yourself in a position to take advantage of the good breaks, or you suck it up and find a way to overcome the bad breaks. If you're not a good team, you sit and talk about how if a couple of breaks had gone the other way, you wouldn't be a loser.

Phong-One
12-09-2005, 01:49 PM
I believe the Chargers will take the AFC West. ANyone want to bet against me?

shammy718
12-09-2005, 01:52 PM
phong, phong. didn't today's lunch teach you anything?

i'll bet you lunch that the chargers will not take the AFC West, but i'm starting to feel bad about all these free meals!

Charlie
12-11-2005, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Phong-One
I believe the Chargers will take the AFC West. ANyone want to bet against me?

I'll take that bet! The Chargers took a major step back this week. A loss to the Dolphins at home is inexcusable, especially now when it's crunch time. Now the Chargers have to travel to Indy and KC before finally finishing up at home against the Broncos. Meanwhile, the Broncos face Buffalo and Oakland the next two weeks so I think it's safe to say they have that division locked. The Chargers may not even make the playoffs with the Steelers and Jacksonville in the mix. I smell another Schotty choke job.

How bout those Raiders. Un-fuckin-believable! How they gonna lose to the sorry ass Jets! Tui ain't ready. Kerry Collins would have won that game. I guess this takes the Jets out of the Reggie Bush sweepstakes. At least the Raiders are now officially in the running for the Matt Leinart consolation prize as well. He would look good in the Silver and Black. Just hope he isn't the next Todd Marinovich.

Phong-One
12-11-2005, 09:43 PM
damn, I'll shut up from now on.

Malosi
12-14-2005, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by l-train8


If you'd asked me two weeks ago, when I got my tickets for that game, I would've agreed. Unfortunately, now it won't be. Both teams have clinched their division championship, and unless something goes horribly wrong, will have clinched the homefield for the playoffs by then.

Tony Dungy has already said he doesn't care about 16-0, only about winning the superbowl. Manning won't play more than the first half against the 'Hawks. The 'Hawks don't even have the perfect record to fight for, so once they clinch homefield advantage through the playoffs, they will be resting their starters and not caring about winning also.

yeah, i guess that's true. i would think the players would care. if i was on that team i'd be more concerned with shutting up the 72 dolphins than winning the super bowl.


Originally posted by Phong-One
I believe the Chargers will take the AFC West. ANyone want to bet against me?

from the kc star (http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13393542.htm):
"OK, the easiest path is for the Chiefs, obviously, to simply win out. That eliminates the weird three-way tie breaker with the Steelers and Chargers because the Chiefs would move ahead of San Diego in the division, and as mentioned, they would beat out Pittsburgh in any such direct tie breaker.

There’s still another path that isn’t all that unlikely:

Pittsburgh loses this week at Minnesota, San Diego loses at Indianapolis, and the Chiefs rise up to win against the Giants. That would mean the Chiefs could clinch a playoff spot by beating the Chargers on Christmas Eve day at Arrowhead Stadium."




i don't know. i think it's still a toss-up. and it's probably going to come down to who loses the most. but the chargers obviously have the most difficult schedule. i'm crossing my fingers that the vikings lose. my cousin james is from san diego, and hates the chiefs, and lives here in kc. maybe i should watch the game with that dude.

jinzoningen
12-15-2005, 02:38 PM
Remember Darrell Russell? Now he's dead. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2260155)

shammy718
12-15-2005, 10:40 PM
sad. rest in peace.

l-train8
12-18-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by Phong-One
I believe the Chargers will take the AFC West. ANyone want to bet against me?

Phong's looking kinda smart right about now, isn't he?
Chargers 26
Colts 17

shammy718
12-18-2005, 10:23 PM
great game. that run by michael turner was cool. but we shall see.

jinzoningen
12-19-2005, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by l-train8


Phong's looking kinda smart right about now, isn't he?
Chargers 26
Colts 17

Denver's gonna win the West. Best that SD can hope for is a wild card.

Sid
01-15-2006, 12:25 PM
Whoa go Steelers. That was a good game. Arggh I can't believe Vanderjact missed the FG at the end!

Malosi
01-16-2006, 09:36 AM
kind of makes me feel better for back in the day when the colts beat kc because of a missed field goal too.

shammy718
01-16-2006, 09:41 AM
crazy game yesterday. the bus was relieved!

Foehammer
01-16-2006, 10:23 AM
really strange day of upsets. I cant believe Pittsburgh. Even though I was rooting for them, I knew they could not win.....

l-train8
01-16-2006, 11:54 AM
I hate it when guys strut into the end zone. It is bragging and it is rude and it just isn't classy. So I was laughing my ass off when Champ Bailey took that shot on the one yard line. Instead of a 100-yard interception return for a touchdown, he almost had a touchback that would've given the ball back to the Patriots.

It was a flashback to Leon Lett in Superbowl XXVII. I wish it happened more often, because if it did, we'd see less of that showboating crap. I think Bailey learned his lesson, though.

l-train8
01-16-2006, 12:14 PM
I got to go to the Seahawks/Redskins game on Saturday. As a lifelong 'Hawks fan, I had this lingering doubt going into the game. What if the easy schedule, not the team's talent is the reason behind the best-in-the-NFC record? What if they just plain choke? What if it is destiny that they will never win another playoff game (they hadn't won one since 1984, when I was in high school). I wonder if that is what Red Sox fans felt like before last year's world series. No matter what they do on the field, the sheer weight of history counterbalances any hope you might feel as a fan. But history didn't matter Saturday.

Man, I've been to a few playoff games in my life - the Sonics in '94, the Mariners a couple times (including the soul-destroying loss to the Yankees in 2001), and waaaaay back when, the Seahawks in '83 (a win against the Broncos). I have to say, the playoffs are a particular ambrosia that is like nothing else. I have been on a high for going on 3 days now. The game itself was electric. I was on my feet over half the time. I am hoarse now from all the screaming. And when you are in a crowd of 60 thousand people who are yelling so loud that you can barely pick out your own voice in the din, it is an amazing feeling. Truly a kind of joy that can't be found anywhere else.

And the Seahawks are for fucking real! They stuck it to the Redskins without the NFL MVP for most of the game. The team's offense was centered around Shaun Alexander, and he went out in the first quarter, with the score still 0-0. And the Seahawks still won handily. Holy crap, I can't imagine how the game would've gone had Shaun played the whole thing. Everyone is going on about how QB Matt Hassleback stepped up when Shaun went out, but I say the 'Hawks offensive line is amazing. They made Maurice Morris look good. The Seahawks have a lot of weapons, despite the focus all season on Alexander.

I'm looking forward to playing the Panthers. They are a team with a style very much like the Redskins - great defense, low-scoring, run-based offense. I think the 'Hawks, especially with home field advantage, will take them apart.

Sid
01-16-2006, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by l-train8
I hate it when guys strut into the end zone. It is bragging and it is rude and it just isn't classy. So I was laughing my ass off when Champ Bailey took that shot on the one yard line. Instead of a 100-yard interception return for a touchdown, he almost had a touchback that would've given the ball back to the Patriots.

It was a flashback to Leon Lett in Superbowl XXVII. I wish it happened more often, because if it did, we'd see less of that showboating crap. I think Bailey learned his lesson, though.

He got naiiiLLEDDD! That shit was funny.

jinzoningen
01-17-2006, 07:06 AM
Originally posted by l-train8

I'm looking forward to playing the Panthers. They are a team with a style very much like the Redskins - great defense, low-scoring, run-based offense. I think the 'Hawks, especially with home field advantage, will take them apart.

The Panthers are much better than the Redskins. I'm taking the Panthers in a slight upset.