Ghost World

[amboy]

This movie was so good. Definitely recommend it. It's faithful to the comic in spirit, but it does deviate quite a bit, for you hardcore fans. Of which I am a part. But it's still really excellent. Thora Birch and Steve Buscemi are great in it.

You could tell in the lobby who was going to see this movie, all the comic book fans.

[mpyre]

I can't wait to check out Ghost World in LA this week (along with Hedgwig).

About your comment on noticing who in the lobby was there for Ghost World...I said the exact same thing but for a different flick--American Sweethearts! My buddy's girlfriend made us see the Julia's film to make up for all the testostorone bloated summer films we put her through. You can tell in any theater lobby who was there for America's Sweethearts...chicks out for a chick flick!

[amboy]

i saw it at anjelika in new york...as soon as they said they were about to seat for ghostworld, all these people made a mad rush for the line. this one girl who was seeing another movie was screaming 'animals! animals!' cuz she got ran over. there were definitely some fanatics in the audience!

[frogbelly]

I saw it at the Angelika too and there obviously was some NYU film student behind me pontificating about some film bullshit nonsense. He was talking loud so everyone could hear his bullshit nonsense. I felt like cramming my Value Pack Combo down his filthy piehole but I was hongry. T
here were some cute Enid types in line. An old man sat next to me and only laughed at the jerk off joke.

[YelloKitty]

i (heart) dan clowes. he drew a caricature of me in my ghost world book. i told him i loved him. heh.

here in SF the chronicle is hosting a screening with terry zwigoff (did i spell that correctly?), but i didn't write in on time so i couldn't get free tickets. otherwise it would cost me 45 bucks. yow.

[amboy]

thats not very underground...

yeah, i was sitting next to some nyu students, GAWD pontificating on capitalism blah blah blah so stupid. maybe it was the same night.

[frogbelly]

Originally posted by amboy
thats not very underground...

yeah, I was sitting next to some nyu students, GAWD pontificating on capitalism blah blah blah so stupid. maybe it was the same night.
Sunday 2:10 pm.
There was some vegan covered in vegan campaign buttons and next to her was a girl who resembled Howdy Doody. Did you see them?
The underground is overcrowded...

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

So when does it come in in
Asia, or the Asian region?

[frogbelly]

Originally posted by Sleepy Introvert Ninja
So when does it come in in
Asia, or the Asian region?

July 28th in Japan according to the website
http://www.ghostworld-themovie.com

Checkitout Sleepy it's a cool site.

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

Hmm it only say's Japan.
Does anyone have a link
of where I can contact the
distributors or something?

[utinni2]

I'm gonna go see it in DC, anyone wanna come with?

[amboy]

yello kitty could you please scan that caricature and post here? that would be so cool.

[YelloKitty]

aww frogbelly:

you're my josh! cept don't go screwing my best friend, umkay?

wow, a request to scan the caricature? i'll do that ASAP! that makes me happy cus none of my friends really care about it. yay!

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

Oh yea that is just super
great! Wow I mean it's great!
Everyone in Japan and the Americas
can watch Ghost World.

I'll probably have to wait
another year or so.

seesh

[amboy]

Originally posted by YelloKitty
aww frogbelly:

you're my josh! cept don't go screwing my best friend, umkay?

wow, a request to scan the caricature? i'll do that ASAP! that makes me happy cus none of my friends really care about it. yay!

yello that would be SO COOL.

i heard dan clowes and adrian tomine hang out together in berkeley...

i think im actually a bit of a seymour.

[frogbelly]

I am a bit Seymour as well:

http://home.earthlink.net/~christopherbenton/vinyl.html

[amboy]

well, i didnt mean in the record freak sense exactly, though i am comic collector. i go more for stories and art now though, rather than editions, first prints, signed copies, etcetera. i meant more in the curmudgeonly-god-the-world-and-its-inhabitants-are-a-pisspot-but-im-still-a-nice-sensitive-tho-maladjusted-guy-who-can-appreciate-beauty sort of way.

Originally posted by Sleepy Introvert Ninja
Hmm it only say's Japan.
Does anyone have a link
of where I can contact the
distributors or something?

Asmik Ace Entertainment is the Japanese distributor. Their website (http://asmik-ace.co.jp/) includes the Japanese trailer. It will be distributed in Malaysia and Thailand by Mongkol Cinema. When definitive information is available, it will be posted at http://www.ghostworld-themovie.com

[YelloKitty]

aol is crap.

here's my dan clowes drawering:

http://hometown.aol.com/kungpaoprawns/myhomepage/artgallery.html

enjoy!

[Simon Paradise]

Originally posted by YelloKitty
aol is crap.

here's my dan clowes drawering:

http://hometown.aol.com/kungpaoprawns/myhomepage/artgallery.html

enjoy!

nice.

[amboy]

thanks, very cool.

[YelloKitty]

i'm glad y'alls like it.

FB, please email me your addy so i can send you a mix tape as promised. :)

[YelloKitty]

okay....

so i watched it this weekend, pretty good i say.

but we left early, and there was an extra scene after the credits, right? what happened?

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

I'm still waiting for
the movie to hit
Asia!

= |

[RazeOner]

Originally posted by YelloKitty
okay....

so i watched it this weekend, pretty good i say.

but we left early, and there was an extra scene after the credits, right? what happened? Good lookin'! Going this week... gotta remember that!

[Mikio4]

Originally posted by YelloKitty
okay....

so i watched it this weekend, pretty good i say.

but we left early, and there was an extra scene after the credits, right? what happened?

It's an alternate version of the scene where Seymour confronts Josh at the convenience store. I'm a credit watcher so I saw it by accident. I thought the movie was excellent too. I saw it on vacation in LA last week. Will definitely see it again when it opens here.

[YelloKitty]

that scene was hilarious. now i really really have to watch it again.

[frogbelly]

Me too. I'm on the bandwagon. And I'm pretty when I'm drunk.

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

Look the problem
still remains!

ME is in Asia.

Ghost world is not.

So please spare the agony.

[frogbelly]

Just don't look Sleepy.
You'll get yours.
frog

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

nooooooooooooooooooooo
I can't take it!!!!!!!!!!

[lovelikefrogs]

I'm in love with that girl, the protagonist, she makes me feel like I wanta live again, I hope she's at least 17.

[frogbelly]

Originally posted by lovelikefrogs
I'm in love with that girl, the protagonist, she makes me feel like I wanta live again, I hope she's at least 17.







Dope smokin' moron!
Dope smokin' moron!
I need a goddamn job!
I love the Replacements!

[Simon Paradise]

http://www.explosion-toys.com/store/media/comic118_hi.jpg


yea!

[YelloKitty]

can that get any cuter? um... anyone wanna get me an early christmas present? hehehe

[frogbelly]

Where do you get the cute Enid doll? Oh never mind I see it. I want one of Buscemi. Of course I might have to settle for the Reservoir Dogs version Mr. Pink.
http://home.earthlink.net/~christopherbenton/buscemi.html

[Edited by frogbelly on 08-14-2001 at 07:55 AM]

[YelloKitty]

the ex-bf sent me the enid doll, i think i want to marry him now. he hath redeemeth himself!

[frogbelly]

Marriage at such a tender young age, and all because you got a doll? What about the kitty I bought you that says, "I Love You" over and over again.

YK's love hath all too short a date
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest

or fair thou Owen Wilson.

[invictus]

Saw the movie last night..... fucking brilliant!

This is Rushmore for girls, but better and funnier.

[frogbelly]

Wait Rushmore IS Rushmore for girls.

[YelloKitty]

Originally posted by frogbelly
Marriage at such a tender young age, and all because you got a doll? What about the kitty I bought you that says, "I Love You" over and over again.

YK's love hath all too short a date
But thy eternal summer shall not fade
Nor lose possession of that fair thou owest

or fair thou Owen Wilson.


shakespeare up in the hizouse!

the kitty is attached to my denim purse, and she's a crowd pleaser everytime i squeeze its head. my drunken friends are easily amused.

yeah, i changed my mind. no marriage for the kitty, cus that'd mean i'd have to stop flirtin' witcha. oh, i'm thinking about flying out to NYC again, rates are supa dupa cheap. if i fly out on saturday, roundtrip tix is only 218! i'm taking donations. i'll show ya what i think about the talking kitty keychain, FB. meow.

p.s. ghost world and rushmore eh? i dunno if i want to compare the two.

[frogbelly]

Gloop!

[invictus]

Originally posted by frogbelly
Wait Rushmore IS Rushmore for girls.

I loved Rushmore, but Ghost World is where I'm at, and I'm a girl. I don't know that many girls who can relate to Rushmore as well as they can to all the awesome stuff that happened to Enid, and all the funny as shit stuff.

[Eric Nakamura]

Watch for the Enid doll here at the GR site, we're expecting to sell

The GREEN HAIRED version that's limited to 500 in Japan. They should be on the site real soon. The black haired version is the American version which is in edition of 5,000. Also watch for the Money Mark doll! We got them.

eric

[YelloKitty]

oh bejebus. i've got the AMERICAN version? bleh. my friends are not cool enough, so when i took my lil enid out to the bar the other night nobody knew who she was. they all thought it was the "lil malinda" doll.

i shall call her mini me.

[Simon Paradise]

ghost world finally started showing in my town this week. there has been absolutely no advertising for this movie. most of the people in the theater were comic book fellas or enid types. This one guy had a t-shirt that said "hung like a mosquito".
good times.

*spoilers***












the roommate who "would be in his room" with an uncooked grilled cheese sandwich and a carton of milk ruled. The artwork and students in enids class were perfect; i liked the unicorn/horse a la "velvet glove cast in iron".

[Edited by Simon Paradise on 09-02-2001 at 02:56 PM]

[Decadent1]

<pre><font size=2 color=black>I feel your pain SIN. The theatres in Tampa will show that Keanu Reeves movie ten
times a day, but they will never show a smart film. It looks like I'll have to go
to Orlando or Ft. Lauderdale when the picture gets released there.</pre></font size=2 color=black>

[mwt.]

i loved ghost world. favorite scene: blues hammer. mad props: to sophie crumb, r. crumb's daughter, who drew all the pictures in enid's sketchbook.

I just found this thread hunting for info on how to get the great Press Pop Ghost World t-shirts. I really love this movie and the comic & screenplay.

Any news on whether Giant Robot will be selling the green haired Little Enid doll? I ordered one from Fantagraphics but I'd like to get one for a friend too and Fantagraphics says that it will be two months or something almost unbearable until they have them in stock.

I am starting development on a Ghost World / Clowes tribute site called Enid's World http://www.enidsworld.com/ so if you have any good links or inside info on GW or DC I would really appreciate if you could drop me a line, my email address for that is enidsworld@infin8ty.com. There's nothing there but a logo right now, but hopefully I will have enough time and energy to get a decent site up ....

[Yumyumcha]

<< Any news on whether Giant Robot will be selling the green haired Little Enid doll? I ordered one from Fantagraphics but I'd like to get one for a friend too and Fantagraphics says that it will be two months or something almost unbearable until they have them in stock.>>

Enid is available at the Giant Robot store - has been for the last couple of weeks. Just click on GR Store and than Extra. Its right underneath the Money Mark figure. And yea, she's got green hair.

I actually found it shortly after posting the message, but thanks anyways! The navigation in the store is kind of difficult :(

saw it, loved it... word.

[5.92]

Saw it. I realized I havent seen a good movie in a long time til I saw Ghost World.

[kidkamikazee]

OOOOH! I just saw the film this past weekend. I am totally in love with Thora Birch in that sailor shirt!
Not to rub salt in the wound, Sleepy Intovert Ninja, but at the beginning of the film, during the graduation scene, there is a shot of Ms. Tanaka.... A brief second of bliss. I almost yelped right there in the theater!!

[YelloKitty]

SAY WHAT???

sara tanaka was in ghost world???? why didn't i notice that?

[cellout]

i just saw it yesterday. It was a little long and slow in places, but overall, i liked it. The dude with the nunchuks kicks ass. hahaha.
"HEY MAN. FREEDOM OF SPEECH. LEARN THE RULES."
"your people also invented gayness."
stay for the outtake scene after the credits.
^c

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

<font size="3" face="System, Small Fonts" color="#400040">
I can't stand
it I really
want to see
Ghost World.

I'm even covering
my eyes from the
previous texts.

When’s it coming out
on DVD? Is it coming
to Asia soon?

I sit tightly
while I hold my
GW comic close...
</font>

[gomi]

It never came to hawaii when I was there over the summer. now that I'm back in L.A., it seems to be pretty much done here.

It'll be out on video (and probably DVD) in Feb. according to this one "industry" type magazine.

[jardine]

hi!
I just found out that Ghost World will be showing in my town starting *tomorrow* ...hurrah! Then I can go back and actually read this thread and everything will be good. I just wanted to share because I'm quite excited 'n' all =)

[hippyjonny]

Originally posted by Su_dong_po

Hi Guys:
I finally saw Ghost World last night, and I came to the conclusion that the "Mystery Bus" at the end was a metaphor for death, and that Enid had committed suicide...does anyone else have thoughts about this?

SDP

just saw it last night as well. i think your right about the bus being a metaphor for death. but that's kind of depressing when you think about it. what do you think the pants where all about?

i read the screen play before watching the the film and they cut a couple of scenes that i thought were important to the plot line. in the screen play enid sleeps with josh right before sleeping with seymour. so cutting out that scene makes josh totally pointless to the story. also in the end josh ends up with rebecca.

did anyone catch the zen guerilla t-shirt doug was wearing. that was pretty cool



[Edited by hippyjonny on 01-10-2002 at 08:56 AM]

[montyburnz]

Originally posted by hippyjonny
Originally posted by Su_dong_po

Hi Guys:
I finally saw Ghost World last night, and I came to the conclusion that the "Mystery Bus" at the end was a metaphor for death, and that Enid had committed suicide...does anyone else have thoughts about this?

SDP

just saw it last night as well. i think your right about the bus being a metaphor for death. but that's kind of depressing when you think about it. what do you think the pants where all about?

i read the screen play before watching the the film and they cut a couple of scenes that i thought were important to the plot line. in the screen play enid sleeps with josh right before sleeping with seymour. so cutting out that scene makes josh totally pointless to the story. also in the end josh ends up with rebecca.

did anyone catch the zen guerilla t-shirt doug was wearing. that was pretty cool

[Edited by hippyjonny on 01-10-2002 at 08:56 AM]

Doug stole the show and yeah I saw the Zen guerilla shirt altho' it did seem out of place on him. I'd imagine an Iron Maiden or Slayer t-shirt or something.

I'm not convinced about the mystery bus=death idea. Maybe someone who has read the comic can comment. It just seems like Enid moves on.

Josh did seem kinda pointless. His character had no, uh, character. I don't know why anyone was fighting over him.

[jardine]

I thought in the comic (I read it awhile ago and don't own it, unfortunately), Enid goes to college in the end. Then the next panel is her coming back off the bus, but older now. She sees the dude painting "Ghost World" on a wall but he runs away when she tries to approach him, and then she sees Josh and Rebecca in a diner together (from the outside of the diner--she doesn't actually go in and they don't see her either). And then Enid says something like "You've grown into a fine young woman." The End. So I thought the ending of the movie was more of her moving on, not so much the death thing. Just my 2 cents...

[ManTron]

started watching it last night and will finish watching it this evening. i'm worried that i'm looking at it too deep where as i'm usually quite shallow.

is it saying - everyone actually is different but makes the decision to be herd like as its easier/ more effective for life.

I apologise for becoming pretentious. the films good though.

[ManTron]

just realised that this is a crazy old thread. god loves you search button.

[EK-4000]

snotty girls with lunchboxes.

[AddictProne]

mystery bus is escape from mundane. It is something that should not be but when she see's it for the first time, she is given hope that her "crap fuct" life will get better. She gets on the bus, is like believing. She has no idea where that bus is supposed to go.

I'm guessing here but that's what I got.

I don't know about the comic.

[5.92]

I'm thinking the same things with a twist of realization that she's a fuckhead and wants to change but I'm giving Enid more credit than I should.....She's just so fucking hot though:D

[beanie]

I saw it and I liked it.

no deeper thoughts than that for me.

[35ft6]

The bus wasn't a metaphor for death. Enid clearly says during the movie that she often fantasizes about leaving town without telling anybody and starting a new life someplace else.

[beanie]

Originally posted by 35ft6
The bus wasn't a metaphor for death. Enid clearly says during the movie that she often fantasizes about leaving town without telling anybody and starting a new life someplace else.

duh?

[hippyjonny]

Originally posted by 5.92
.She's just so fucking hot though:D


hahah, wurd

[EK-4000]

like i said, snotty girls with lunchboxes.

[fightgenie]

http://www.flappingjet.com/chap10store/images/stew_image.jpg

[invictus]

Is he on Reno 911 now?

[35ft6]

^ I don't think so.

[coxon]

love this movie..

u can still purchase it for $7.98 (canadian) on dvdsoon.com

free shipping worldwide...

[Margin Walker]

Originally posted by fightgenie
http://www.flappingjet.com/chap10store/images/stew_image.jpg
Man, I never noticed his Hangman tattoo before. All the more reason to watch this again. :cool:

[mwt.]

what a great, great great fucking movie.

[BOON]

Too lazy to read all posts but can anyone confirm if the wife-beatered, nunchucked 7/11 hero is the cab driver in the 'By the Way' video?

[yamchild]

i just watched the movie a short while ago (and long after i read the comic book).

for the most part, i think it's a very successful adaption of the comic book, but i think there are a series of related deviations from the comic book that make the movie a morally uncomfortable experience, and because i don't think the moral discomfort was intended, it really detracted from the movie.

i think it's clear from both the comic book and the movie that we are meant to sympathize with enid, as a sensitive, intelligent, interesting person. but if you take a step back from the considerable charm of the character, it's clear that in the movie she is callous, selfish, manipulative, and hurts every single main character in the movie in substantial ways, while continually bemoaning that she is the victim. there's a hollowness in the movie because of this discrepancy between how we're suppose to view enid and her actions in the movie. the excuse for her behavior is that she is young, confused, and willful, but the same can be said of rebecca. i almost feel like, in order to be sympathetic to enid, you have to sort of discount the thoughts and feelings of everyone around her.

spoilers below....









and i think this is where the movie compares unfavorably to the comic book. in the comic book, enid is not so relentlessly spiteful and selfish. instead of mocking a handicapped classmate, we see enid recoil in horror when she's confronted with a dying classmate. and in the comic book, we don't see enid cynically manipulating her teacher with a racist poster, or completely ruining seymour's life.

i'm not saying that all movie protagonists are supposed to be likeable.... but in this movie, enid is clearly meant to be likeable, but her actions don't justify this feeling. and frankly, it seems like the movie itself is as manipulative as the enid character in trying to get the audience to identify with someone who, in all her actions, shows herself to be completely selfish and lacking any concern for others. in a way, this movie reminds of me of todd solondz's movies, in that they both tend to elicit these vaguely directed feelings of disgust towards the characters.

[35ft6]

^ That's a very interesting take on it.

My take was that the complexity of Enid's personality in Ghost World was a nice break from how teens are depicted in most other films. You know, totally one-dimensional, the nerd, or the jock, or the rebel without a cause angst filled type, or the slut, or the virgin, etc. She's going through her angry phase, lashing out at the mediocrity all around her, but she'll eventually come around. At least she's not simply passively accepting the world around her, lashing out inwardly, believing that she's the one that's fucked up. I'm biased, though. I grew up in a shitty little town in the midwest and I dyed my hair, pierced myself in the bathroom, etc., anything to differentiate myself from my mundane surroundings. I wish I still had more of my old teen fight in me. I'm not sure if I've matured or simply given up. It's easier to play nice, keep your mouth shut, and blend in with the fat, lazy herd. Yeah, Enid was "mean", I guess, but I think she had a point most of the time. And when she didn't really have a point, I blame her youth.

[beanie]

and scarlet johansen is such a cutie cutie. :)

[35ft6]

^ Scarlett J for a while was the one gripe I had with the movie. I've since eased my Scarlett J Sucks stance. I still don't think she's that good looking, and I still think she's an overrated actor, but maybe she wasn't so bad in Ghost World. Maybe.

[beanie]

it might just be that my ex looked exactly like her and I learned to like the look.

her acting wasn't that great, I'll give that much.

[35ft6]

SCARLETT JOHANSSON has given boyfriend JOSH HARTNETT cause for concern, by branding monogamy unnatural and questioning romances between actors.

The screen stars have been dating since April (05) after meeting on the set of THE BLACK DAHLIA, but Johansson's comments have sparked questions.

She says, "I don't think human beings are monogamous by nature. It's difficult - you have to put a lot of effort into a relationship.

"I think it's hard for actors to date each other because they are so damn moody. You are away from people constantly and having a relationship that is strictly by phone, it is miserable.

"Or if you say to him/her, 'Hey, (even though) I am doing a very sexy scene with this very sexy girl/boy, I love you and I'm going to be thinking of you when I am rolling around in bed with this person!'"

[beanie]

give her a chance to explain herself!