I'm going to Hong Kong and Beijing Sept 30

Anyone ever been to either place? I'm looking for edgier sort of places that might not be in the guide. Also, a martial arts enthusiast (sp?). THANK YOU

[Ryan]

been to hongkong..loved it, lusted it, going back


do a search for more threads on hong kong

[kid_robotron]

Originally posted by duckrazor
Anyone ever been to either place? I'm looking for edgier sort of places that might not be in the guide. Also, a martial arts enthusiast (sp?). THANK YOU

Try visiting Leung Ting's Wing Tsun school, he's my Sifu.

[kamenriderv3]

Originally posted by kid_robotron
Try visiting Leung Ting's Wing Tsun school, he's my Sifu.

Really? Wow. Cool.

[kid_robotron]

Well he's the grandmaster of our school of Wing Tsun, but I've only met the European grandmaster. When I was in HK I saw adverts on TV offering courses for HK$600 a month. The address of the school escapes me though, sorry.

[Ryan]

check this out

http://www.giantrobot.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=164

Very helpful with that other thread. Thank you evryone else too

[Stretch]

Duck..

I have lived in both places. Probably one of the best places to find out where to go is the hostels. In HK, Kowloon is where you will find most of the action. In Beijing try away from downtown. Make sure you do go to the Temple of Heaven and stand on the spot where the emperor used to stand...anyways I have to get back to work. Are you going to be able to go anywhere else?

I am going to HK for 5 and Beijing for 4 days. Hopefully George Bush won't bomb them or say some stupid shit or something. I'm somewhat concerned about the political climate in Beijing. But anyway, Do you know about Shoalin Temple? I've heard it's really touristy but I still want to go...

[Ryan]

HK is still way more free than Beijing is but Ill take a stab and guess that since China got the bid for the olympics, theyre gonna start being nicer to foreigners..

OK, i'm Cantonese, so maybe i'm biased, but i damn near starved in beijing!!! first of all the rice is weird and not fragrant, plus they serve rice first and soup last (opposite guangdong), and their fish is super--, i dunno, rugged. like real rubbery. but anyway, beijing is disgustingly polluted, which makes for really cool photos in a twin-peaks sorta way. the only thing in beijing that i could recommend is a tiny foreigner club next to beijing university, called solutions. they had some knockin common, mos def, even some cool garage/drum+bass.

the other thing is the summer palace, touristy, but pretty in a opposite-forbidden city way.

in HK, go to mongkok in kowloon for nightmarketing, cool people watching. it's easy to get there on the subway.

good luck! and don't eat the "fragrant meat"!!!

[Sleepy Introvert Ninja]

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[chopsuey]

i've been to hong kong and lived in beijing for a total of 6 months. in hong kong, check out the hong kong arts center (i think that's the name). it's on the island near central hong kong i think? if you go to lan kwai fong, bring money.

in beijing, check out the courtyard gallery (i interned there last summer). it's a contemporary (experimental art) gallery w/an expensive restaurant upstairs and it's located next to the forbidden city's east gate. the address is 95 donghuamen dajie. just say "gugong dongmer de pangbiar" to the cab driver. there are some ok clubs (at least a year ago they existed) like orange and clubvogue located near the worker's stadium. get some hotpot and beijing duck in the haidian district where all the students live(northwest beijing), it'll be cheaper there. if you buy anything, bargain like a mother fucker. those chinese merchants are the most aggressive mother fucken retailers and will try to charge 4 times what something is really worth. and if you're really feeling edgy, check out wudaokou where there are records store shacks which sell not-bad pirated cds for about $0.50 each.

have fun and try not to laugh at what the beijing kids wear

[chopsuey]

i've been to hong kong and lived in beijing for a total of 6 months. in hong kong, check out the hong kong arts center (i think that's the name). it's on the island near central hong kong i think? if you go to lan kwai fong, bring money.

in beijing, check out the courtyard gallery (i interned there last summer). it's a contemporary (experimental art) gallery w/an expensive restaurant upstairs and it's located next to the forbidden city's east gate. the address is 95 donghuamen dajie. just say "gugong dongmer de pangbiar" to the cab driver. there are some ok clubs (at least a year ago they existed) like orange and clubvogue located near the worker's stadium. get some hotpot and beijing duck in the haidian district where all the students live(northwest beijing), it'll be cheaper there. if you buy anything, bargain like a mother fucker. those chinese merchants are the most aggressive mother fucken retailers and will try to charge 4 times what something is really worth. and if you're really feeling edgy, check out wudaokou where there are records store shacks which sell not-bad pirated cds for about $0.50 each.

have fun and try not to laugh at what the beijing kids wear

When I went to HK recently, i noticed that there were hardly any young people in the main touristy areas. I realised that many people just frequent places like Mongkok or Yau Ma Tei, if you head deeper into these places, there are less gweilos. Also, I noticed that going to Sham Shei Po there are pirate stuff a but alot of dressy chicks that look like hookers from the mainland, usually with brown hair. It is quite a seedy place. Actually the worst place I ever visited was San Po Kong which is bordering off Wong tai Sin, it won't ever make it onto the tourist maps of HK.

There is a punk club in Beijing called Xiang Shu (Oak Tree,ÏðÊ÷, each of the two syllables is fourth tone). It's near the foreign languages college. I never got a chance to go, I just heard about it from a student of mine. He said you should go to Wu Dao Kou (ÎåµÀ¿Ú)stop, I think on the Beijing subway.

Beijing is pretty cool. People ignore all traffic rules, so be careful. People also drive on the sidewalk.

In Hong Kong, you can buy a lot of good stuff on Granville Road in Tsim Sha Tsui. There are some good VCD stores, plus a small store that sells lots of Japanese pop culture paraphenalia (Afro Ken, etc.). On Sae Young Choi Street, which runs N/S parallel to Nathan Road in the Mong Kok/Yau Ma Tei area, there are a lot of good VCD stores and clothing stores. Plus, at night it's closed to traffic, so it's a good place to wander and people-watch.

[rayyoungchu.com]

Good stuff Chop Suey!

I'm wanting to go to Beijing in early July 2005 and coming back in 2006.

I heard cool things about Factory 798 / (Dashanzi Art District - same?) www.798space.com . It doesn't seem too underground, more high end art.

Does anyone out there have any current suggestions on cool places (Giant Robot steelo)?

A lot of Beijing posts have been old so I'm thinking a lot has changed since.

ryc.

[myleftlung]

I'll be in Beijing this May. What will I do out there? Sleep.

[I'm Rad]

hey me too. May 11th

beijing first then shanghai.

a faculty member said "eew" to my china trip saying that i'd have a handler? someone who follows me to make sure i don't do anything illegal? i sincerely doubt it...i'm not exactly important.