drum n bass

[akuma]

trying to get a feel for how many of yall peeps are feelin this shit. as a drum n bass dj i personally love this stuff. currently loving releases by :
totalscience/digital/marcusintalex/phuncateck/peshay/dillinja/klute/polar/teebee.... not diggin the new roni size shit whatsoever.
any bassheads out there?
(not talkin about the 16th and mission baseheads)

peace.
akuma
http://www.est00.com

[shampoo]

i like all kinds of music (yes and even some country!) but i would have to say that my favorite genre is drum n bass. i only recently got into it and after dancing for hours to dnb you cant help but feel that everything else is way too damn slow. i havent heard much though so i would appreciate some points in the right direction. so far ive heard metalheadz stuff--all good, old photek--not the new housy stuff though its not bad, just not dnb, goldie--is he all that jungly?, and this dj in LA called subcode and of course other LA djs like hive, apx-1 etc. also for those bassheads in LA check out konkrete jungle, its really awesome.

neat web site btw

[akuma]

yeah konkrete jungle in la is dope... ive heard a lot about it though i havent made it there (i'm up in bay area) though when i lived in ny i checked out the konkrete jungle in nyc which was really fun (tc izlam was going off on the mic).
subcode is a dope producer (his latest 2 pack on the thermal labelis nuts) though i havent heard him dj, im sure he's awesome. i saw hive here in sf about 2 months ago and he rocked the cat club.
points in the right direction...well your off to a good start diggin the metalheadz shit. i mean all those cats practically made it to ewhat it is today.. cosome of the artists in that camp that im lovin are peshay, dillinja, doc scott, photek (yeha he's nuts aint he-though not feelin his latest garage album) and digital.
id peep out some mixtapes by dara (his latest on moonshine records is nice). also check for mixes at http://www.digitalbombing.com they always got new dnb shit there. not too much into dieselboy anymore, as his shit is a lil too techy... lackin the funk and soul that i think should be the foundation of any type of music.

im glad you like the site...
take it light.
akuma
http://www.est00.com

[Edited by akuma on 12-21-2000 at 09:22 AM]

[45rpm]

My 2 greatest electronic loves is techno (pref detroit style) and dnb....

Loxy and Ink playing sydney on 28th December!

total science are putting out some of the best stuff now....

their murder EP is totally wicked..

Akuma - do u mix/ dj?

[akuma]

Akuma - do u mix/ dj?



yah yah... got into it over a year ago and have been droppin crazy loot ever since...its fuckin awesome.
yeah that murder ting shit is nuts...im more into the odyssey cut though, how its all warm and breezy with those ill synths and choppy hard breaks.
lovin the total science shit.
peep out the new digital and spirit 2pack called cool out ep. its really really good.
peace man.
happy holidaze.
akuma
http://www.est00.com

[45rpm]

cool.. I dont' really like the digital and spirit EP as much.. i haven't been buying much stuff lately, mainly a lot of back catalogue from rummaging in 2nd hand shops.. I dont' think this year some of the releases were so good but its starting to get heaps better

so where are u living?

check out sydney dnb on http://www.sydneyfriction.com
some of the audio is sick (check out Vtek's stuff)

[akuma]

i feel you on the weak releases this year, though you right they are gettin better (peep teebee's newest shit 'let go b/w deception')
im up in the bay area san fran.
crazy dnb around here...possibly the dnb captial of the u.s.
where you at holmes?

[45rpm]

Teebee is the bomb - do you have Black Science Labs?

I dont' know much about US dnb, but i get the idea that it can be slightly different from UK stuff... I saw Bryan Gee (movement) just about 3 weeks ago, totally excellent stuff...

I didn't get any new dnb this week - totally went on a back catalogue ramapge buying up Paperclip people (Carl Craig) out on the label Planet E. He did 'Bugs in the bassbin' (mowax) which was one of the earliest songs that dnb djs were playing .... of course he is detroit techno but he is one musical genius

[blink]

d'n'b is still very new to this region, people only know the big names like Goldie, Roni Size etc. that's about it...most yuppies are more into trance, house etc. we only so far had Bryan Gee and that's about it.

US had some pretty good d'n'b stuff, Dieselboy, Dara etc went to Breakbeat Science in NY couple years back, was a real experience. been droppin' the Kosheen "Catch" single and new Klute album. dope stuff.

b

[akuma]

b-
yeah klute's album is nuts!
if you dig klute's shit, peep polar's last album 37 degrees and fallin...he also does releases under the monkier 'k' that are real good. that dude is nice as hell, like a hard minimal style that has tight intricacies that slightly changes up in the song so it aint the same tired beat for 7 minutes. his production steez is top notch.
and of course peep for teebee.
glad to hear that this dnb shit is makin its way over there where you at... spread tha word!

45rpm-
yeah bbscience is awesome..tiny ass store with a sick catalogue. great website too with a posts forum that gets out of hand occasionally. http://www.breakbeatscience.com
now that im out of new york my new little dnb store where i drop loot is at compound in san fran. dope place.
u.s releases are surprising me lately! especially cats like thermal in sf, where i wouldnt touch their releases last year are now puttin out some nice tunes... like subcodes latest 2-pack. http://www.thermalrecordings.com
peace yall.
akuma

dnb is great, although i think i'm about as annoyed with jump-up as you can get. I've started listening to lots of old ragga (remarc, tribe of isachaar et al...) lately, and that's been really stokin' my fires. As a matter of fact, I just picked up a sweet heretic tape ("Jungle Classics") from Pure Acid Mixtapes, and it's got a damn good A side... the B side is all classic jump-up (super sharp shooter and such), but it's still good to have. Worth the $8 or whatever.



[woot, my first post done.]

Orpheus

[blink]

main problem for us is getting vinyls from the US or UK, the shipping charges are really freaking expensive, costs more than the vinyls themselves! anyone know anywhere I can get reasonably cheap vinyls/shipping rates?

saw Hybrid last night, they played some really good breakbeat stuff and we danced like a bunch of monkeys with hot pokes up our ass...

b

i find http://www.juno.co.uk,www.recordstore.co.uk and other internet-sites very helpful. i live in the u.s., but order lots of records from overseas, and it often comes out cheaper than buying them as imports (4 pounds a record plus 5 pounds shipping, for 10 records that's almost a hundred bucks, which is cheaper than it'd be going down to the store)
i'd suggest looking for a site that carries the labels you enjoy and looking there, although your mileage may vary.

[45rpm]

I say go with Juno. All the big people down here get it from there. The prices are pretty much alright too, and is cheaper than what I get in Sydney.

HOw did you find Bryan Gee? I thought he was pretty good, mixing it up UK style but he was a little too stoned towards the end.

Blink - where in SE Asia are you? check out http://www.breakbeat.co.uk - there are some wicked live sets there - I recommend the Old Skool Ray Keith set. Ray is the master.

[blink]

Originally posted by 45rpm
I say go with Juno. All the big people down here get it from there. The prices are pretty much alright too, and is cheaper than what I get in Sydney.

HOw did you find Bryan Gee? I thought he was pretty good, mixing it up UK style but he was a little too stoned towards the end.

Blink - where in SE Asia are you? check out http://www.breakbeat.co.uk - there are some wicked live sets there - I recommend the Old Skool Ray Keith set. Ray is the master.


check out the juno site, they have the most current releases even some dubplates sometimes. When Bryan Gee was here, you can notice that he's actually holding back a lot 'cause the crowd here can't really handle anything too hardcore. bummer.

i'm in Malaysia, d'n'b scene here is almost non-existent save for a couple of producers and DJs. yeah, the Drum and Bass Arena is the best site in terms of news, forums i think.

b

[45rpm]

It's not really Bryan G's style to play hard I think. If you consider the releases out on V recordings, for example - not hard and dark releases at all.

I'm sure that he played Konflict's Messiah in Malaysia though - killer of a song.

How many people turn up to dnb parties over there?

[blink]

Originally posted by 45rpm
It's not really Bryan G's style to play hard I think. If you consider the releases out on V recordings, for example - not hard and dark releases at all.

I'm sure that he played Konflict's Messiah in Malaysia though - killer of a song.

How many people turn up to dnb parties over there?

yeah, i know but he's just playing it safe by sticking to the jump up/two-step stuff which is easier to dance to but it's not his fault, it's just the people here still can't get around anything that's not four to the floor, know what I mean? yeah he did play Konflict.

we haven't had any dnb djs at all for the past whole year, closest was Hybrid which was more to breakbeat than dnb. i guess we had about 500 people at Bryan Gee but then more than half of them don't even dig dnb, they're there to be seen...sad but true sigh....peace

[45rpm]

Yeah I know people go to those places to be seen. I guess it's better than nothing. I had friends who put on excellent parties (excellent sound, lighting, etc), and I heard their last party on 30/12 only had about 90 people show up. This person today goes to me 'oh i didn't go but i heard only 90 people show up'. I so wanted to tell this person off, because they didn't show up when they could have, their whole attitude being that since it wasn't 'happening' then it wasn't worth going to. From that angle I reckon if I was a promotor, I would be happy even if some pretentious people came, and left with something - hell, they might even like it.

Sometimes I think that the DJ has something to do with it, you know, work the vibe and take the crowd somewhere where they dont' even think they could go. For instance I saw Recloose (he is out on the planet e label) and it was totally different from what I expected, and I had heard one set of his before (which was different from the set I saw live).

Someone I saw who I thought was really good was DJ Sean from New Zealand, you should find out if someone will bring him out to Malaysia or something.

Mel.
In case you were wondering why i didn't go to my friend's party - i had gone to Melbourne that day, so I was real disappointed to hear hardly anyone showed up!

[blink]

Originally posted by 45rpm
Yeah I know people go to those places to be seen. I guess it's better than nothing. I had friends who put on excellent parties (excellent sound, lighting, etc), and I heard their last party on 30/12 only had about 90 people show up. This person today goes to me 'oh i didn't go but i heard only 90 people show up'. I so wanted to tell this person off, because they didn't show up when they could have, their whole attitude being that since it wasn't 'happening' then it wasn't worth going to. From that angle I reckon if I was a promotor, I would be happy even if some pretentious people came, and left with something - hell, they might even like it.

Sometimes I think that the DJ has something to do with it, you know, work the vibe and take the crowd somewhere where they dont' even think they could go. For instance I saw Recloose (he is out on the planet e label) and it was totally different from what I expected, and I had heard one set of his before (which was different from the set I saw live).

Someone I saw who I thought was really good was DJ Sean from New Zealand, you should find out if someone will bring him out to Malaysia or something.

Mel.
In case you were wondering why i didn't go to my friend's party - i had gone to Melbourne that day, so I was real disappointed to hear hardly anyone showed up!

a crowd is important if you wanna survive as a promoter or else you won't be able to do any parties but get this...certain Djs had been thrown off the decks before for being 'too progressive/some other lame excuse' how fucked up is that? you flew half the world to play a gig only to be told your music is 'not right for our crowd'. if that's the case, then 'your crowd and you sir are fucked up'

i'm ashamed to say it's happened here before, we Malaysians are mostly just a bunch of wannabes and promoters/venues only care about making money, the worst thing is the people who go to such parties don't even buy the music! they just come, pop E's and get off their tits and then go home. that's it.

b

[45rpm]

Sorry to hear that kind of behaviour happening over there. I don't think it's ever happened here. I've been to some international djs over here (dnb and techno) and even if they played sort of crap, people were still up for it. I dont' think it's because of drugs either, but just people willing to stick with the dj.

Rather, it would probably be the music purists that would grumble about it.. hmm

Maybe the crowd is too tied up with the notion of "clubbing" - that being the trendy thing to do, to be in an impressive venue, etc. So they think clubbing carries with it the notion of a kind of music that should be associated with it. It's the sort of ignorant types who show up at parties not knowing what the hell is going on. I think I can say safely that you just got to put the word out about what type of music is what, if the masses know what they are in for, then chances are they will show up to appreciate and discover music rather than just a night out on the town. I must admit I don't show up to a lot of things anymore, because I know in advance what type of music it is or what djs are playing, etc. hmm i should stop here. I still can't beleive djs get booed off. Very un-Australian...

[45rpm]

"a crowd is important if you wanna survive as a promoter "

I don't know whether you have had experience putting on your own parties, and I know that here in Australia, it's not the same situation, BUT the important thing of being a promotor is not just to promote the DJ.

You have to convince people about the concept of your party, believe that it will work out, and if you are confident and convincing enough, they will try and stick by you. So it's about educating them before the event, give them an impression of what it will be like, and promote like crazy.

One time I found myself going to a detroit techno party, way before I was really into it, knew hardly anything about it. I was a serious drum and bass head. before I knew it, I was pasting posters all around Sydney, and I went to the party with an open mind, and it was amazing, so incredibly fun. Believe it or not the DJ dropped Moloko's Sing It Back, a song that i wouldn't classify as liking but it went well together with the whole thing.

I convinced about 30 of my friends to show up to my dnb b'day 21st - it was a gamble but they enjoyed it. There was a mix up of hard dnb, together with more jump up style..

anyway i should stop rambling i dont' sound very sympathetic to the situation over there. I guess if you stick with it, and be patient, it will happen. Right now there is just too much hype with electronic music, and everyone wants to be a DJ. I have only been to KL once (4 years ago) - very different from Australia, and perhaps people might have more expectations of a culture which is only starting to happen more.

this promotor in HK told me that its' very hard to put on parties there, and you would think otherwise, but people are more focused on having good venue, etc than the dj. So I guess Asia (except Japan and Beijing) has to sort itself out. In beijing, anything goes because the crowd is enthusiastic, and also because they dont' really know what the rest of the world is doing (I mean they don't 'expect' the typical sets, etc), you could be more experimental with the sets.

enough latenite rambling. mel.

yo yo...

hmm lots to say but I'll keep it short.

dnb is the best, no question.

I got my start in San Diego and there are some good people working hard down there to promote it and just to play it and listen to it. Plugs: go to http://nokturnal.net for all your electronic music needs, put together by a good dnb dj and has netshows (with other techno too etc etc)

Since I have moved back to the Bay Area I have been a bit pressd to find some good dnb clubs, all I know of are eklektic and one here in San Jose, and the scene is way different from socal, hardly any MC's and hardly any rewinds called out and the dnb is not that hard and crazy... SF capital of dnb? hmm I have not seen much evidence to support that, not saying it aint here, but not as big, the BA is HOUSE territory, no question...

tee bee is awesome, I saw him LIVE (while he broadcasted over the net on nokturnal.net), if you haven't liked his older stuff, be ready for the new stuff he previewed, got some way cool remixes of Rnb songs and what not, all hard and fast and just the way I like it.

about the crouds and all... i have to say fuck 'em, I mean a croud is cool and all, but I think as a DJ, you spin what you want... if you clear a room, so be it, those who stay will really dig you... I mean there is some sort of compromise, but don't compromise too much... I love the hard stuff and old breaking jungle rips, you cant handle it? then get out...

[ninjaKid]

yoooo . . . hailing from Atlanta, the scene here is . . . well, pretty good. we've got a few weeklies and monthly events here, including Konkrete Jungle ATL (which i have yet to attend so i can't say how it is) . . . a lot of young local DJs as well as a few veterans of the scene still holdin' it down . . .

i started playing dnb at the end of 1996/early 97 . . . things have changed, non? the cycle repeats itself . . . we've got the ol' skool comin' back to blend with the new like Nice and Smooth. as for myself, i am on the Total Science jock along with everyone else . . . also runnin' stuff by Dillinja, Dylan, Bad Company (oh my bad Digital Nation), Konflict and that lot, as well as Marcus Intalex and the new RAM and Virus stuff . . . and oh GOSH the Pennyblack! used to be i wouldn't even really look at anything on the label . . . now . . . i'm ON that isht (this is my first post, are we censored?) like white on rice.

anyhow, 'nuff rambling . . . anybody got tapes to trade? give to promoters, get booked, wot? i just finished one, so email me if you're interested (no guarantees on promptness, i do have a life) . . .

-ad
ninjaKid, Tengoku crew (crew of one), Atlanta

[falcor]

Originally posted by blink

d'n'b is still very new to this region, people only know the big names like Goldie, Roni Size etc. that's about it...most yuppies are more into trance, house etc. we only so far had Bryan Gee and that's about it.

US had some pretty good d'n'b stuff, Dieselboy, Dara etc went to Breakbeat Science in NY couple years back, was a real experience. been droppin' the Kosheen "Catch" single and new Klute album. dope stuff.

b

feelin you there - i'm from the philippines and all people know there is paul van dyk, atb and paul oakenfold. goldie spun at a rave about 5 years ago so they know him. in the whole country, there is only one place that spins dnb.
dara spins every sunday in ny at anseo. at halcyon, friday nights are dnb. also at 95 leonard on thursdays i think. there are a lot of places and i have yet to check them out - it's hard when it's a bar and your b's only 20! =:P

[blink]

just to set the record straight, Fabio also played here two years' back at a NYE rave too.

Originally posted by falcor


Originally posted by blink

d'n'b is still very new to this region, people only know the big names like Goldie, Roni Size etc. that's about it...most yuppies are more into trance, house etc. we only so far had Bryan Gee and that's about it.

US had some pretty good d'n'b stuff, Dieselboy, Dara etc went to Breakbeat Science in NY couple years back, was a real experience. been droppin' the Kosheen "Catch" single and new Klute album. dope stuff.

b

feelin you there - i'm from the philippines and all people know there is paul van dyk, atb and paul oakenfold. goldie spun at a rave about 5 years ago so they know him. in the whole country, there is only one place that spins dnb.
dara spins every sunday in ny at anseo. at halcyon, friday nights are dnb. also at 95 leonard on thursdays i think. there are a lot of places and i have yet to check them out - it's hard when it's a bar and your b's only 20! =:P

[djbadmonkey]

a crowd is important if you wanna survive as a promoter or else you won't be able to do any parties but get this...certain Djs had been thrown off the decks before for being 'too progressive/some other lame excuse' how fucked up is that? you flew half the world to play a gig only to be told your music is 'not right for our crowd'. if that's the case, then 'your crowd and you sir are fucked up'

i'm ashamed to say it's happened here before, we Malaysians are mostly just a bunch of wannabes and promoters/venues only care about making money, the worst thing is the people who go to such parties don't even buy the music! they just come, pop E's and get off their tits and then go home. that's it.

b [/B][/QUOTE]

too progressive? man, don't them fools know that progressive is great? i mean, an evening with ltj bukem and some atmospheric dnb is all i'd want now a days.

as a dnb dj--it's hard. even in SFO where the scene is supposed to be blowing up. we went from having 4 weeklies to having 1 or 2. and even then, it's just hard. i don't know, i spin at a trancy 18 + crowd, and i get requests--aphrodite? please. i just bought the new BC. why would you want to hear aphro?

so sad.
djbm
selectah!

[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by ninjaKid

i started playing dnb at the end of 1996/early 97 . . . things have changed, non? the cycle repeats itself . . . we've got the ol' skool comin' back to blend with the new like Nice and Smooth. as for myself, i am on the Total Science jock along with everyone else . . . also runnin' stuff by Dillinja, Dylan, Bad Company (oh my bad Digital Nation), Konflict and that lot, as well as Marcus Intalex and the new RAM and Virus stuff . . . and oh GOSH the Pennyblack! used to be i wouldn't even really look at anything on the label . . . now . . . i'm ON that isht (this is my first post, are we censored?) like white on rice.

-ad
ninjaKid, Tengoku crew (crew of one), Atlanta


yeah i'm feelin you. i'm at this point in my stylistic trajectory where i'm confused as to whether i wanna smooth it out or tear it up. i mean, i've been spinning the Digital Nation and the new Ram EPs without rest. fuckin "peacekeeper" by moving fusion on the atlantis EP is awesome. but then again, the harder teckier stuff just doesn't move me as much as it did. i wanna spin jazzy stuff-like the marcus intalex, or this carlito and addiciotn 12" i just bought. sigh. i guess the medium is where i find my niche. i mean, there was a time where anything that was remotely jazzy/atmospheric would never find its way into my bag, but nowadays, i really enjoy throwing classic tunes like 'it's a jazz thing,' 'music,' and 'piano tune' in some sets. it's like lemon D and LTJ are my gods, and ANdy C is like an older statue. though Andy C is still...oh my god...andy C.

djbm

[djbadmonkey]

you guys use "progressive" in a different sense than I'm used to. you use progressive to mean cutting edge, avante garde. the way i usually hear it, like progressive house/progressive trance, means it's more popular/anthem/mainstream

anyway thought that was funny

btw i love dnb, although i don't know that much about it: ak1200, deacon, dieselboy (old stuff)

[Edited by yellahbastard on 02-20-2001 at 02:30 PM] [/B][/QUOTE]

yeah. i get all crossed up with the terminology. so many words so many nuances. i guess i was thinking of a time when progressive dnb was kind of this weird proto-atmospheric phase. i don't know. it's like you could apply any adjective to any style of music and get some kind of nu skool.

i'm sick of trance. i've been sick of it. it stopped being fun when i stopped doing drugs. says something.

djbm
confusee

[blink]

what's up y'll? just got back from London and had to say..d'n'b paradise!!

if any of you are in town, check out Movement(run by Bryan Gee and friends) at Bar Rumba on Thrusday night and Fabric too...had a blast, saw Andy C, Dilinja and loads others...hey 45rpm, I've lost your e-mail, get in touch ok?

[joetron2030]

Wow, I don't know how I missed on the d'n'b topic in here...

Anyways, I got into it about two or three years ago. Nothing way out there.

I got in through Roni Size and to a certain degree We(tm). But, then I went to Minneapolis stop of the Kung-fu Knowledge tour and saw some dnb djs just rip it up.

So, I got into it even more. I'm still a big fan of the Reprazent/Full Cycle crew (aside from the most recent Roni Size album). I especially like the "Through The Eyes" series they've done. The DJ Die one just came out.

I also listen to a lot of Platinum Breakz II and Goldie and Grooverider's "Prototype years" album.

Lately, I've been listening to Ed Rush and Optical's "Wormholes" release (still waiting for the CD release of "The Creeps" to drop). Also picked up Matrix "Sleepwalk", Decoder "Concussion", 1.8.7 "When Worlds Collide" and "Quality Rolls", and BC's "Inside the Machine".

I don't spin, though I want to. But, right now, I just don't have the space for that set-up and need the money to save for a house with the spouse-to-be.

Maybe afterwards...

Also, thought it's not dnb, I think Funkstorung kick mucho booty. "Appetite for Disctruction" is hip-hop for the 31st century!

[dorsal one]

Hey, I know that this thread is hella old, but I'm just a wonderin what the heck you dnb peeps are listening to at the moment? Recently I started to dj a little more of this stuff and gettin a little input would be cool. I've been listening to Total Science and Digital, some of the Ed Rush and Optical "the Creeps" and a little bit of Peeshay stuff. I don't think my neighbor has been digging much of it, though. The bastard keeps banging on the floor. Anyone know of some dnb that is heavily influenced by Warp records type electronic?

[Yung Robot]

I'm still down with Roni Size, although the new disc got old pretty quick for me.
I dunno if Funkstorung even is Drum & Bass...hell, I dunno what they are, but I like it.
Richard Devine is perhaps even more out there than Aphex Twin.
Red Snapper is very tasty.

[45rpm]

The Creeps is out on CD now.. as of maybe 2 weeks ago?

Ray Keith is rolling into Sydney 17-03-01 (same nite as Jeff Mills! argh!)

Total Science coming down to Sydney in April!

There is this one Sydney producer, Vtek, who has produced some totally amazing stuff. I'm listening to his promo CD atm, and it's totally blown me away. Go to http://www.sydneyfriction.com then under the audio section to hear some of his tunes.... then, if you're still interested, mesg me or email me and maybe we can work something out - I've got permission to make copies of the cd from him.

Check it out.

Bukem came to Sydney 2 thursdays ago, totally blew me away.
Check out my review and some photos here:
http://www.inthemix.com.au/cgi-bin/newspro/viewnews.php?newsid=982889529,26414,

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by 45rpm
The Creeps is out on CD now.. as of maybe 2 weeks ago?



It is?!? Damn! I gots to find that. I've been waiting for it to come out on CD (I've got no turntables). Know of anyplace on-line where i might be able to find it?

As for Funkstorung, I classify it as hip-hop for the 31st century! It's freakin' out there! But, it's totally dope and phat and all that.

[foureyedmonkey]

Originally posted by dorsal one
Hey, I know that this thread is hella old, but I'm just a wonderin what the heck you dnb peeps are listening to at the moment? Recently I started to dj a little more of this stuff and gettin a little input would be cool. I've been listening to Total Science and Digital, some of the Ed Rush and Optical "the Creeps" and a little bit of Peeshay stuff. I don't think my neighbor has been digging much of it, though. The bastard keeps banging on the floor. Anyone know of some dnb that is heavily influenced by Warp records type electronic?

Mr. Dorsal - what warp stuff do you mean? I'd say that Squarepusher is already doing d'n'b - but they used to call it drill 'n bass when he started abusing those little Boss drum machines. Also try the "drumrolypoly" release by Rubber Johnny. If you can find it (try mp3s), listen to the two AFX Hangable Auto Bulb releases. It's stuff by Aphex Twin, a bit like a more underground version of the RDJ album. And then there's mu-ziq (greek character mu), who has his own label and does wackyness galore.

If you already know all of this, my apologies! 8^)
If not, email me, I'll tell you about more stuff.

[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by dorsal one
Hey, I know that this thread is hella old, but I'm just a wonderin what the heck you dnb peeps are listening to at the moment? Recently I started to dj a little more of this stuff and gettin a little input would be cool. I've been listening to Total Science and Digital, some of the Ed Rush and Optical "the Creeps" and a little bit of Peeshay stuff. I don't think my neighbor has been digging much of it, though. The bastard keeps banging on the floor. Anyone know of some dnb that is heavily influenced by Warp records type electronic?

right now, i'm really into the smoother side of dnb. i mean i'm still really into tech and all, but i am on the way to becoming more like fabio, and less like andy C so to speak. which doesn't mean i'm hating on andy C because he's gotta be the king.

but i just picked up a new 12" by rubus. it's the starlight 12" i think. anyway, it's really clean and melodic.

as far as CD's--i havne't bought one in a while, as i've been downloading livesets/mixtapes off of napster for a while now--the most recent and appreciated being some old live sets from LTJ and some Kiss FM broadcasts from last year. i'm also rediscovering some classics from 96 and earlier--'it's a jazz thing' by roni, and 'the western' and 'mutant' being a few of those trax. you know what's killing me though--is too often MC's kill live performance recordings--MC's are so much more effective in person, because on tape--it's just not the same thing. not to diss MC's but i guess i am not happy with the way that when listening at home, MC's become a distraction.

oooh. and lemon D is a killer.

djbm

[45rpm]

Bah this thread being old! it's a good one.

What I'm listening to atm - Total Science (anythign by them) and stuff by Marcus Intellex.

Dom and Roland's "Can't Punish Me" is a killer!

[dorsal one]

Just picked up Digital's single on 31 and it is good...Also some Capone on Hard Leaders, can anyone recomend anything by Dillinja or his Capone alias?

[joetron2030]

Damn! I just got this in the morning UPS delivery.

Sweet! Love the cover art, too!

[45rpm]

Just a little change of pace from the usual hard dnb. - I got the Nookie EP, which is limited to 3000 copies.. out on Good Looking Records (Bukem's label) ... chilling stuff

[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by dorsal one
Just picked up Digital's single on 31 and it is good...Also some Capone on Hard Leaders, can anyone recomend anything by Dillinja or his Capone alias?

the chronic 14 EP is pretty good. it's got some classically styled dillinja tracks. my fave being "it's over" which is a vocally, dillinja-snare/kick dominated track.

also, his remix of cyba's "you're gonna miss" is a must have. maybe my favorite track of all time.

umm--also, there's an old V recordings 12" Lemon D single that is perhaps my other fave record in the world--"i can't stop" is the said track that makes me all googly and wonderfuls.

djbadmonkey

[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by 45rpm
Just a little change of pace from the usual hard dnb. - I got the Nookie EP, which is limited to 3000 copies.. out on Good Looking Records (Bukem's label) ... chilling stuff



i just got some new EP's on good looking, and they're great. i got some newer PFM, LTJ, et al, and i must say that i'm intruiged.

anyone here into garage? just wondering being that it's the next big thing, and it's kind of fun, though a little too posh for my liking. i'm looking for a specialty record store that specializes in it--either in SF or the bay, OR mail order/internet. i'm figuring--if i'm intending on playing out s'more--i'd best expand the crate beyond jungle. not to say that it's not good enough, because i jungle will and always will be my first dj love.

djbadmo

[yellahbastard]

garage? as in deep house? that's been around since the 70s. if you're talking about the same thing, it comes from Paradise Garage, which was the legendary underground club in NYC in the 70s-80s. it's like house music, except with more vocals. someone else back me up on this? i'm not an expert

maybe you're talking about two-step garage? that's new i think

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by yellahbastard

maybe you're talking about two-step garage? that's new i think

I think he/she(?) is referring to 2-step garage (or UK garage).

In any case, the little I've heard of 2-step was so-so. A friend of mine says that there is some GOOD 2-step out there. He was going to send me some of it, too.

I thought I had read in URB or XLR8R that 2-step was already passe' in the UK.

Maybe I'm wrong...

[djbadmonkey]

yeah 2-step is what i was referring to. and it's fun, i enjoy the funky basslines and such, and well it's a little less angsty/drugsy than some other styles that have been popular of late, and that has it's appeal too.

the two step that i've heard hasn't been the kind of stuff that burns hot and hard and short in your musical desires--but it's solid to begin with and grows on ya i'm sure. it's been mostly really jazzy/funky stuff, with or without vocals--lotsa remixes of lotsa different kinds of songs--

on being passe in the UK...what isn't passe in the UK? which is my frustration with things like URB and XLR8r and media outlets that track the "scene." everything has it's useful life when it comes to popularity-but if the music is really good, then it's really good, and that my friends, is the point, non? it's sad to see people all obsessed with what some british cokeheads are dictating as cool and not cool, even though, for a surprisingly good portion of the time they're right.


djbm
hey NKOTB was hot, then not, but their fans are still out there and loyal--and NKOTB kinda sucked anyway.

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by djbadmonkey

on being passe in the UK...what isn't passe in the UK? which is my frustration with things like URB and XLR8r and media outlets that track the "scene." everything has it's useful life when it comes to popularity-but if the music is really good, then it's really good, and that my friends, is the point, non? it's sad to see people all obsessed with what some british cokeheads are dictating as cool and not cool, even though, for a surprisingly good portion of the time they're right.


I thoroughly agree with you there, djbm... But, when you're new to a "scene" and you're hungry for stuff to hear, you kind of have to rely on print mags like URB and XLR8R. However, I do have to give XLR8R some props as they haven't claimed 2-step passe. They've mentioned that some "tastemakers" in the UK have called it that. But, they've been giving press to 2-step coming up in the US scene now (mostly on the left and right coasts).

Me, I'm stuck in the middle, Minneapolis. Luckily, I have a friend in NYC who's waaay more into music than I am. He usually flips me onto new shit. And keeps me updated on stuff that they guys in We(tm) are up to (he's pretty close to Lloop and has played live with him a couple of times recently).

So, sometimes, the print media is all you have to go on. But, I do take reviews with a grain of sand. I'm wary of music reviews regardless of who writes it. More so if it's from the brit music press.

Good lord, I read Select and NME for a long time and learned right away that those reviewers are some of the biggest "soup du jour" jerkies I've ever read.

But, it IS uncanny how they can be so right about some musically trends. Bugs me, too!

[akuma]

onetimethebadadsalesmanblastedsomeoldno u-turnshitinmyear,ithinkitiwasanearlytracerelease.butanyway,sothisadsalesmanisblastingthisshitinmyeara ndmakingmeeatcranberrysaucebythejarandiwaslikegetthefuckoffmygreymatteryoudamnannoyingthoughtandhewa slikefuckyoustopwipingyourassafteryourdoneshittingandiwaslikeyousicklittlefecalpheliacmonkey,youneed tostopwatchingterranceandphillip.andtheniwokeupandtheneedlewasonthelabelspinningaroundmakingthatnois eweallknowtoowell.

[ninjaKid]

in my bag now:

Total Science (can those boys go wrong?)

new Ray Keith EP (yeah, the same amens all over the place, but he's STILL the man! and Lea kicks ass)

Hive EP (Serial KiLLA wot! and the rest of the album is pretty good too!)

East Side DJ Promo (arent' they ALL?) 41 - don't know the name but it is wiiiicked

Mampi Swift's "Resurrection" LP

DILLINJA - CYBOTRON. yeah, we've been hearing these tunes for eons now but fuckit, now i can do all the cool mixes w/them i've been fiending to do, and not just with mp3s!

stuff that i WANT but is not out yet:

Stakka and Skynet feat. Friction: Altitude (oh my GOSH)

Bad Company: Spider

Trace: Mutant 2001 VIP (never coming out, according to Fresh. damnit! i'd give my left earlobe for that plate)

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[remotecontrolalligator]

Originally posted by akuma
yeah konkrete jungle in la is dope... ive heard a lot about it though i havent made it there (i'm up in bay area) though when i lived in ny i checked out the konkrete jungle in nyc which was really fun (tc izlam was going off on the mic).


hey, are you still going to konkrete jungle? shampoop told me about that place about a month ago, and i have been going every week since!

maybe i'll see you there too?

[remotecontrolalligator]

Originally posted by ninjaKid
Bad Company: Spider



oh man oh man! they performed at konkrete jungle about 2 weeks ago. it was about an hour and a half set. and they rocked the whole time!

[-minus_one]

i love drum & bass. makes me feel all fidgity

[toomuchchowmein]

hehe

so old this thread.


ill do a top ten..

hive/juju-ghetto bird
harry ransom-rotgut
benjie- oni da
arqer/realtime/ufo-houston highway
cerebral intergration vs gridlok-wobat tune
psidream-summer time
sporophyte-equator
subcode-bust it yaw
hive/echo-death valley
total science-make me feel(remix)

woo!

[shampoo]

mmm subcode
i havent seen him in awhile
tho i havent been out in awhile
theres other dnb threads out there too, just do a search

[toomuchchowmein]

p.s

r.i.p konkrete

i had the pleasure to be at the last one, it was a blast.

[akuma]

top ten.

astral vibes- danny breaks
search-baron
left of center- mathematics
koka remix- calibre & juju
r factor- q project
brazilian fire- greg parker
hey dj- kamanchi
music & life (total science rmx)- simon'bassline'smith
wierd vibes- dj friction & universal project
traffic- abstract & juju

I don't know. I used to really like this stuff a lot. But I guess I've gotten older and a little bit more diversified in my listening and clubbing patterns.

What I will tell you though is that there this new shit that is just utterly crazy. There was some sort of festival in a park I casually walked by and I saw these teeny boppers dancing to the most God awful sound...like fucking beyond speeded up beats. Anyways, the way they were dancing reminded me of clips I've seen of Mick Jagger and James Brown doing their spasmodic epileptic shaking dance in the 60s. And then all the kids would give out some sorta shout and converge, like some sorta Eastern European-Russian thing.

It was crazy.

[shampoo]

Originally posted by toomuchchowmein
p.s

r.i.p konkrete

i had the pleasure to be at the last one, it was a blast.



no, i was at the last one damnit!
actually strike that i was at the last one at spaceland,
didnt get to go to the last one somewhere downtown, what
was the space like?

too bad, so sad...

[shampoo]

Originally posted by Den
Memo to dnb heads:
The [return] button is your friend.
love,
Den

its that earlier post by akuma that is causing all this
scrolling pain... stream of consciousness is fun but only
in an organized and controlled manner. :p

[akuma]

so the drum & bass arena did a top 20 d&b list of all time:
http://www.drumnbassarena.com/features/TheTop20Tunes/

all i gotta say is this is one sorry ass list that infuriates me.

first of all, several originators and innovators who helped shaped this music to what it is today are not represented at all on the list...

no johnny L
no photek
no digital
no source direct

and bad company (altho they do put out heavy tunes) has no business having 2 songs listed in the top 3. the nine is a classic, no doubt, but #1 of all time???

fooking cunt shite, mate.

[djbadmonkey]

--d0od WhErE'S ApHroDiTe'S "LuNiZ RmX?"

um. the list has some good shit on it. though, alien girl and warhead ought to be bumped oop a few spoots.

alsoo wheere is "piper"? tha's anoother one tha needs to bee on any "best uh" leest.

point well taken though. johnny L, photek, john b, source direct, donde estan?

i'd have to say that. at this point in my now defunct joongle cahreer that my fav track of all time is "i can't stop" lemon d. never an anthem, but sick shite. especially when the rollin snares coom in.

boh!

djbm

[emilie]

this post is pretty old. i like that it has resurfaced...

i dont have the time to read right now, but i will soon and respond accordingly.

[evillilgirl]

I love drum and bass...particularly dark drum and bass~
I love detroit tekno as well..
tribal tekno..etc.

~Has anyone heard of the rave act that congress is trying to pass as a law in our constitution? I think that it's pretty fucked up...trying to take the right of electronic music away from us.
well that's all im going to rant about it.

~This might be an old thread but it is as good to ask here as anywhere else..ahem
Anyone else going to "Scribble Jam" this year? I might be going not sure tho'..I haven't adventured out in hiphop or underground world in quite some time...sigh I feel like such a princess..but I am thinking about going...none the less..I think that PhaseEncoder might even enter The slam contest there..I would enter the Graffitti contest but I don't know been a few years since I was writing on walls...
~well much love to the musiq..and much love to the loopz.

[Edited by evillilgirl on 08-01-2002 at 06:25 PM]

[djbadmonkey]

new directions in dnb?

iono i've kind of dropped out of the scene so i don't know what kind of tracks have been blowing up.

i went to eightball records down on u.sq. top 5 dnb traxx were records that have been out on dubs for years. french kiss? last i remember the total science sound was en mode.

i guess i haven't been keeping up as best i should but i'm lookin to get back in. who's got a top 10 for me?

djbm

[akuma]

here's the french kiss (optical rmx) joint you were hearing about... http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/optical_frenchkissrmx.rm


not necessarily a top 10, but 10 joints im really feelin...

Baron "Search" Outbreak LTD
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/sounds/cat2375b.asf

High Contrast "Global love (Calibre remix)"
http://www.redeyerecords.co.uk/sounds/cat2503.asf

Digital "Dirty Money" Dubzilla LP
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/digital_dirtymoney.rm

Spirit "Overdrive" Sektor 3 E.P.
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/spirit_overdrive.rm

Spirit."Active-ated" INNA001
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/spirit_activeated.rm

Sonic & Silver " The Harder They Come" LPLATE2110
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/sonicsil_theharder.rm

Digital "Sounds Of Freedom" CIA 011
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/digital_soundsoffreedom.rm

Calibre "Proof Positive" SUICIDE006
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/calibre_proofpositive.rm

Total Science "HotSpot" TYME021
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/totalscience_hotspot.rm

Johhny L "Part Of U" Metalheadz 2 LP
http://www.compoundrecords.com/audioFiles/jonnyl_partofu.rm



[Edited by akuma on 08-06-2002 at 03:57 PM]

[toomuchchowmein]

i like jungle that sounds like it almost hurts but for some reason it makes u dance.

artists i like right ..

kemal
cause for concern
ed rush optical
synthetix (rob f./impulse)
u.f.o!
hive
(all phunkateck crew)

yeah.

im not too into this "summertime vibe"trend going on,.. but its ok i guess. stuff cycles.

[ninjaKid]

ughhh! you guys are making me pine, for i cannot afford to buy rekkords. ugh.

my SHIT right now is "sandstorm (sunrise)" by fresh and vegas . . .

ed rush, optical, and matrix are comin here in october.

i still hate that i missed the dillinja/lemon d tour. i say "missed" but they didn't even come through here . . .

i also fucking slept through the high contrast show when he was here . . . aaaargh . . . =/

yeah, that top 20 list has some editing . . . where is the love?

think i'm gonna hook up another broadcast once i get my rekkids back in order! =)


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[-dRaGoN rOi-]

drum 'n bass all the way.

[akuma]

Originally posted by toomuchchowmein
i like jungle that sounds like it almost hurts but for some reason it makes u dance.

artists i like right ..

kemal
cause for concern
ed rush optical
synthetix (rob f./impulse)
u.f.o!
hive
(all phunkateck crew)

yeah.

im not too into this "summertime vibe"trend going on,.. but its ok i guess. stuff cycles.


yeah man, im a fan those artists too but there's only so much i can stand cause it gets a lil too techy for me with the rave stabs and whatnot.
im down with more of the old formula, where fresh breaks and deep subby bass own... i love how cats like calibre and total science are reinventing the old formula with new sounds but still keepin the d&b runnin.
as far as the housey summertime vibe, i hear what you're saying and a lot of cats are just putting down beats through that standard formula (warm bouncey bass & female vocals). though when the real dons are putting out those types of tracks (marcus intalex/calibre) they always flip it and make super quality tunes.

man, last night the top (juju's "phuturo" night) was out of control....
juju was droppin gems as usual; some real hitting tunes that got everybody amped as fuck. and then marcus intalex came through and dropped some ILL dubplates that just blew everyone away.
was a good time fo sho.

[djbadmonkey]

i'm going to direct drive on sat (keaton from u.susp, friction, residents). just because i haven't been out to some dnb community events in years. and i gotta represent west coast on the east. pish-posh is there next week.

anyone else have any essential NYC dnb destinations?

i'm gettin hyped hyped hyped.

i like summertime vibe, but it's prob just a reaction to my uberteckiness of 3 years ago. still i've always loved vocals and light snappy snares. best of both worlds perhaps.

djbm

[joetron2030]

Recent DnB I've been rockin' to would have to be Dillinja and Lemon D's "Big Bad Bass".

Other than that, I recently picked up Dom & Roland's "Back For the Future". Enjoying that, too.

I didn't look at that list, either, but missing Photek would seem a big no-no.

[RazeOner]

Originally posted by djbadmonkey
i'm going to direct drive on sat (keaton from u.susp, friction, residents). just because i haven't been out to some dnb community events in years. and i gotta represent west coast on the east. pish-posh is there next week.

anyone else have any essential NYC dnb destinations?

i'm gettin hyped hyped hyped.

i like summertime vibe, but it's prob just a reaction to my uberteckiness of 3 years ago. still i've always loved vocals and light snappy snares. best of both worlds perhaps.

djbm Damn! That takes me back... me & my girl used to frequent DirectDrive weekly (Seoul's party!?)...actually one of the last nights we went was PishPosh's release.... if your out & about check out my boy Swingset... usual vibe, usual suspects & crews.

[akuma]

FYI---> a banging mix from dj seen is available to download (68 MB).
from vibey fluid sounds to hard thrashers, this mix is the hot shit.

dj seen "rollin on dubs" (http://www.nycjungle.com/archives/seen-rollingondubs.mp3)

[GONG_LORD]

My all time classic is 'LTJ Bukem - The Rebirth'. This is one of the best examples of intelligent DnB I have ever heard and I have been into DnB since 1995 baby!

[joetron2030]

OK. I picked up the new Roni Size "solo" joint, "Touching Down".

Gone are the singing divas. Gone are the MCs. Just straight up rollers.

I'm so used to hearing the more jazzy stuff from Roni Size, it's a refreshing change to hear this. It's seriously good. The best from Roni Size I've heard in a long while.

[captain beeheart]

I just got the new Bad Company full-length "Shot Down On Safari". It's good BUT... There's still something missing. The grooves just continue on a linear thing for 16 bars at a time, the syncopation is missing... The production is wicked and there are some tough sounds, but compared to, say, SOUR's output circa 1998 is like comparing John Digweed to Underground Resistance if you see what I mean? It's tough but it's too slick, the rawness is no longer there. I dunno, this is just my opinion, of course, and I know plenty of people are still loving the rush. I mean, I love it, but I can't help thinking there's a step further they could be going.

[joetron2030]

I was looking for that last night, but my rekkid store didn't have it. I'll probably end up ordering it from BBS in NYC.

[dimbulb]

yiay jungleheads!
saw dieselboy just a few weeks back with mc messinian from philly - hella good show!!!!! the mc didn't take over the show like they tend to do a lot of the time, which was an added bonus! i just found the ed rush & optical "Can Mask" and "Bacteria tracks (1999)in a shop yesterday... Bacteria is killer... i usually like the brazillian stuff though, by people like dj marky, patife... totally into dj suv too, the whole east asian influenced beat thing...
oh... another total killer classic is roni size's "brown paper bag"... from reprazent..:D

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by dimbulb
yiay jungleheads!
saw dieselboy just a few weeks back with mc messinian from philly - hella good show!!!!! the mc didn't take over the show like they tend to do a lot of the time, which was an added bonus! i just found the ed rush & optical "Can Mask" and "Bacteria tracks (1999)in a shop yesterday... Bacteria is killer... i usually like the brazillian stuff though, by people like dj marky, patife... totally into dj suv too, the whole east asian influenced beat thing...

word, check my thread about the diesel/j mess show here in Atlanta . . . http://www.giantrobot.com/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=12946

good to see another junglist! where are you located?

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[yng d-stryr]

ED RUSH AND OPTICAL are coming to LA soon.I was going to go to the snow, but now I can just go to downtown.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by yng d-stryr
ED RUSH AND OPTICAL are coming to LA soon.I was going to go to the snow, but now I can just go to downtown.

they were here a month or so ago . . . TORE THE PLACE DOWN. actually optical didn't show up, as he had just had a kid :) so he is comin here next month for a make up! we still got ed rush and matrix.

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[djbadmonkey]

depth 2 is next week!

andy c, rider, fabio and marky. i'm geeeeked.

[AddictProne]

d n b has zero soul any more. They are all dark step tech step industrial sounds which are all metal clash whackness.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by AddictProne
d n b has zero soul any more. They are all dark step tech step industrial sounds which are all metal clash whackness.

uhhhh what?

try high contrast's "true colors" cd. try listening to some roni size, ltj bukem, marky, dj addiction, carlito . . . that's a really narrow view of dnb, especially considering the massive swing towards "liquid funk" (i HATE that term) nowadays . . . true, the sound you described is still around, but there's a LOT more to choose from . . .

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[dimbulb]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


word, check my thread about the diesel/j mess show here in Atlanta . . . http://www.giantrobot.com/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=12946

good to see another junglist! where are you located?

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dieselboy is totally chill, i met him breifly after the show, before everyone got kicked out of the club. no attitude at all. i got some good shots of him during his set too.
i'm way up north in Victoria, BC, Canada. But I'm pretty new to the scene here. There's been pretty big names here though, DJ SS was here for Halloween, but I freakin' missed the show, I'm still kicking myself because of that....:(

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


uhhhh what?

try high contrast's "true colors" cd. try listening to some roni size, ltj bukem, marky, dj addiction, carlito . . . that's a really narrow view of dnb, especially considering the massive swing towards "liquid funk" (i HATE that term) nowadays . . . true, the sound you described is still around, but there's a LOT more to choose from . . .

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yeah huhn, also, patife (so tinha que ser com voce is one of my favourite tunes), suv, peshay, surge, LK, shy fx, tpower... alot of them has jazzy, brazilian influence, total feel good tunes... and most definately definately, soul.

[toomuchchowmein]

god im so tired of this "soul" argument.

whats wrong w/hard techy stuff?

its not easy to make, it has just the ammount of groove.


SOUL SCHMOUL

who the hell needs soul when u got heavy techy shit coming out of huge speakers?

[dimbulb]

[i]
whats wrong w/hard techy stuff?

its not easy to make, it has just the ammount of groove.


SOUL SCHMOUL

who the hell needs soul when u got heavy techy shit coming out of huge speakers? [/B]

I do :P

.. i .. don't think we were 'arguing' against 'hard techy' dnb, at least i wasn't anyway. i was just agreeing to ninja kid to his reply to AddictProne's post about dnb lacking soul...

i doubt any GOOD dnb, of ANY type is easy to make, and hey, groove to whatever bakes your cookies, i groove to whatever sounds good, and makes me want to dance, techy or jazzy, you should give that a try sometime. :D

[djbadmonkey]

can't forget dillinja/lemon D, marcus intalex, influx datum, shyFX and Fabio when it comes to soul.

[akuma]

the tunes that walk the fine balance between the techy and soulful side sides are the bangingest cuts imo. the clean production with heavy and hard sides, w/o overdoing it, just get at me. artists like calibre, juju, baron, polar, digital & total science (but the rave stabs and overplayed formulas gotta go). i can appreciate (and get down with) well produced dark stuff, like that 'hornet' tune by bad co. which is sick. but i lose patience quickly and the meched-out techno drone with the boom *tssk* beat get bothersome. why i got respect for innovative cats like paradox, kemal, spirit, abstract who do darker stuff but keep it fresh. drum & bass.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by toomuchchowmein
god im so tired of this "soul" argument.

whats wrong w/hard techy stuff?

its not easy to make, it has just the ammount of groove.


SOUL SCHMOUL

who the hell needs soul when u got heavy techy shit coming out of huge speakers?

hahah, amen to that, too. i just get pist off when someone dismisses a whole genre just because of what they've heard and didn't like (this usually happens with hip-hop). jungle has such a wide spectrum of sounds, i really think there's something for most everybody!

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[phism]

i stopped following it after it became a more established genre... i hate when that happens... and people stop exploring as much...


i'd appreciate quick tips on what's good (i don't feel like reading through this whole thread)...

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by dimbulb



dieselboy is totally chill, i met him breifly after the show, before everyone got kicked out of the club. no attitude at all. i got some good shots of him during his set too.
i'm way up north in Victoria, BC, Canada. But I'm pretty new to the scene here. There's been pretty big names here though, DJ SS was here for Halloween, but I freakin' missed the show, I'm still kicking myself because of that....:(

word, you got pics? where they at?

Canada is dope. i went to the T-Dot for like, 2 days and fell in love! i gotta get back up there sometime . . .

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[dimbulb]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


word, you got pics? where they at?

Canada is dope. i went to the T-Dot for like, 2 days and fell in love! i gotta get back up there sometime . . .

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I haven't even been to T. *sigh* that's where everything is happening, hopefully i can move there in a couple of years. but the west coast is full of east coasters here chilling out, a lot of my friends here are from the east.
I still have to get those photos scanned, but I'm going to try to post them pretty soon. hopefully sometime this week, depending how busy i'm with school and work...

[AddictProne]

the top 5 songs on that drum and bass arena top 20 SUCK. I mean, I know I'm raggin on the original nuttah but comon, you cannot dance to that shit WHATSOEVER. My point really was that the popular culture in the dnb scene likes, that dark step shit which I hate so I can't dance to it thus, I'm not in the scene anymore. I mean, dark step sounds like arty gabber. Tell me I'm wrong. (i'm not)

[toomuchchowmein]

yep. yer right.

notice how everyone else dances to it, except you. which means its obviously not worth dancing to.

too dark blah blah.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by AddictProne
the top 5 songs on that drum and bass arena top 20 SUCK. I mean, I know I'm raggin on the original nuttah but comon, you cannot dance to that shit WHATSOEVER. My point really was that the popular culture in the dnb scene likes, that dark step shit which I hate so I can't dance to it thus, I'm not in the scene anymore. I mean, dark step sounds like arty gabber. Tell me I'm wrong. (i'm not)

you can't dance to "original nuttah"? you must not be an original rudebwai nuttah then!

like i said, the liquid funk is becoming hella popular, you should be able to find stuff that is more to your liking easily. where do you live? i know there was a time in Atlanta when you would hear almost the same shit everywhere you went, but we've got a fair amount of diversity among djs here now (esp. among the more established ones).

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[djpayload]

theres really not a particular style thats becoming more and more popular really. Trance ish dnb is picking up, as well as disco and other fuzed genres, but its all good though.

The Nine owns everyone btw. ;)

[djbadmonkey]

i get bombarded by it via webcast, but the RAM remix of Pacman owns me.

[AddictProne]

Originally posted by toomuchchowmein
yep. yer right.

notice how everyone else dances to it, except you. which means its obviously not worth dancing to.

too dark blah blah.

notice how everyone with taste left an hour ago.

[AddictProne]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


you can't dance to "original nuttah"? you must not be an original rudebwai nuttah then!

like i said, the liquid funk is becoming hella popular, you should be able to find stuff that is more to your liking easily. where do you live? i know there was a time in Atlanta when you would hear almost the same shit everywhere you went, but we've got a fair amount of diversity among djs here now (esp. among the more established ones).

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I'm in NYC and back in 97 98, there was this huge wave of dark step coming in. This was partly due to the influx of dust that was comin in and you know how dust and people who like dust are about music. When the opposite style of music, real old school ragga, came back to battle against the influx of dark step in the dnb only scene (around the time they moved konkrete jungle back to the wetlands), they took it too far. I'm talking about really bad music all over the place because they refused to play what was good but only what fit into a certain genre.

Listen, I'm not saying all dark step is bad but when they pander to the audiences tastes they end up playing really bad music because they want to get called back for more jobs. Which ends up making me hate that genre of music, and hate the people who like it so much. I mean, comon, it's not that great.

[dimbulb]

hey ninja kid, u asked about them...
goto
http://www.finearts.uvic.ca/~hsiao911/dieselboypix.html

i still need to put a lot more up... haven't had the time, too busy with school... *sigh* i'll let u know when they're all there.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by djbadmonkey
i get bombarded by it via webcast, but the RAM remix of Pacman owns me.

word up!

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[djbadmonkey]

yo depth 2 was off the hook tonight.

$35 admission was not.

anyway i hung in there for fabio, rider, and marky, but my legs and eyes and ears quit on me before andy c came on and i punked out early.

but i got a good sweat goin and the bass was on point all night. fabio rocked a killer set, imo it's always toughest to open a crowd and get it hyped.

[acid_squid]

I don't think anyone's mentioned the live D n B players yet. I'm a a fan of the earlier Red Snapper albums. I haven't heard their last one, but the previous one (Our Aim is to Satisfy) was weak.
Another good one is Droid, but I haven't heard much of their stuff.

Other favorites of mine: The Mixmag cd by LTJ Bukem is one of the best things I've ever heard.
Wagon Christ aka Plug aka Luke Vibert. The 'Tally Ho!' album is one of my alltime favorites.
Squarepusher is also way up on my list. I like the 'Selection 16' album the most.
Asian Dub Foundation is cool.
I like mu-ziq a lot as well. It's not D n B, but the 'Mu-ziq vs the Auteurs' is really excellent.
Roni Size is great. I saw Reprazent a few years ago and I have a lot of respect for the guy... but I don't think I'll ever own 'In the Mode.'

[emilie]

me, but you know that dan.

CD!

i just picked up roni' size's sampler... i haven't listened to it yet.

just saw: burner brothers, fabio, marky, grooverider, and andy c last night. :p

... does Pilote ever play out? i want to see London Elektricity and Future Engineers too.

[toomuchchowmein]

Originally posted by AddictProne


notice how everyone with taste left an hour ago.


*shakes head


rock on w/your coffee house self.

ill keep making my tasteless music, spanks : )

[djpayload]

Originally posted by emilie
me, but you know that dan.

CD!

i just picked up roni' size's sampler... i haven't listened to it yet.

just saw: burner brothers, fabio, marky, grooverider, and andy c last night. :p

... does Pilote ever play out? i want to see London Elektricity and Future Engineers too.

Would you like to get married?

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by emilie
me, but you know that dan.

CD!

i just picked up roni' size's sampler... i haven't listened to it yet.

just saw: burner brothers, fabio, marky, grooverider, and andy c last night. :p

... does Pilote ever play out? i want to see London Elektricity and Future Engineers too.

dag...

[akuma]

new digital & spirit ep coming soon!

BOOM! (http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/player/player.asp?ID=5048)



:eek:

[joetron2030]

I'm currently rockin' to the new )E|3(, "Shot Down on Safari". 2 CDs. Received it in the mail today from the good folks at Break Beat Science in NYC.

[akuma]

yeah it's not too bad... good to see )E|3( expanding their sound and reaching new flavors than just the tech-step madness of past albums like 'digital nation'.

the hornet is the fucking joint- when those subs rolls and the amen is chopped up. UNGH!

[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by akuma
yeah it's not too bad... good to see )E|3( expanding their sound and reaching new flavors than just the tech-step madness of past albums like 'digital nation'.

the hornet is the fucking joint- when those subs rolls and the amen is chopped up. UNGH!

digital nation is a great fuckin EP.

*wistful*

[shawn_k]

i've been lookin for that shy fx old school jungle mixed cd...anyone know where i can find a copy;)

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by akuma
yeah it's not too bad... good to see )E|3( expanding their sound and reaching new flavors than just the tech-step madness of past albums like 'digital nation'.

the hornet is the fucking joint- when those subs rolls and the amen is chopped up. UNGH!

I've been listening to this at work, so I can't quite crank it up enough to feel the subs... Hopefully, on the ride home, or at home, I'll be able to give it the vol. levels it deserves.

[5.92]

I've been listening to this 3pack cassette by renegade hardware.
Its Loxy, Future cut and Usual suspects live.

Future Cut kicks more ass than a donkey.

[ninjaKid]

let's see . . .

Optical was here last week. ROCKED it, despite shoddy needle/sound problems. really nice guy, too . . . we talked xbox on the way back to the hotel (he uses an xbox bag for his rekkids) and ended up givin him an extra strap since his broke. fresh.

loxy is gonna be here next week! gonna be a smashdown . . . and the night after, total science, craze, skibadee, baron, the jungle drummer . . . oh, and ME! :D

my lick right now is still "the latin thing" . . . i pull rewinds on it at my HOUSE! :-)

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[akuma]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


loxy is gonna be here next week! gonna be a smashdown . . . and the night after, total science, craze, skibadee, baron, the jungle drummer . . . oh, and ME! :D


big ups yo badself!
congrats and have fun man.

[joetron2030]

Congrats, Ninjakid!

[fad3r]

what group is )E|3(?? like who do i ask for when im at the record store? i wanna pick up the new album.

[djpayload]

Just ask for Bad Company "Shot Down on Safari", its a tearin lp.

[joetron2030]

Make sure you make it clear that you're looking for "Bad Company Recordings" from the UK. or the drum-n-bass group "Bad Company".

Otherwise, most chain record store drones will think you're talking about the 70s hard rock band Bad Company!

I have "Shot Down on Safari". It's good. But, I think I like their "Book of the Bad" album/CD more.

[akuma]

the debut release by stateside artist pieter k has been getting great reviews
http://www.breakbeatscience.com/pieterk/

his production is damn precise...

[shawn_k]

i was hurting for some new music to listen to yesterday and really wanted some d&b. picked up danny the wildchild's fully sorted. it didn't really flip my bean. a lot of the tracks had super played out samples. i like a little more bass, and stuff more on the ragga tip. anyone have suggestions?

[joetron2030]

I gotta say that I really like Roni Size's latest, "Touching Down". But, it's not really on that ragga tip.

[akuma]

http://www.tunes.co.uk/tunes/images/brazilian_job.jpg
^ this dj marky mix is blazing


and this dj bailey mix is damn good as well...
http://www.breakbeatscience.com/bailey/



and im sorting out a mix as we speak- pm me your address

[akuma]

here's a great ragga mix by tester (http://files.ragga-jungle.com/play.php?type=sound&format=mp3&artist=tester&title=now-who-gwan-test)

[shawn_k]

thanks akuma. that's exactly what i'm talking about.

[shampoo]

god, akuma i lust you.

[fad3r]

any non-ragga recommendations? i like stuff similar to dieselboy, tech itch, hive, etc.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by fad3r
any non-ragga recommendations? i like stuff similar to dieselboy, tech itch, hive, etc.

check that bad company album previously mentioned. also check bailey's latest CD (i think somebody posted the link earlier - http://www.breakbeatscience.com/bailey) . . .

i have a 20 minute mix up here (2 years old stylo!) http://www.tengokuonline.com/soundz/onthemove.ram

i wanna broadcast again soon. downloaded the software . . . just gotta motivate . . .

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[YelloKitty]

hey ad, when are you going to have yr dnb radio show again? remember when i kept requesting you play ragga? that shit ruled.

[Aser]

It's good to see there's a resurgence of song structure and melody in d&b. In recent years, it got to be too much about dark sounds. Everybody using the same synth sounds and basstones didn't help things.

Currently it's all about Brazilian d&b. Drumagick, Patife, XRS Land, Marky etc, etc, they're all killing it now. I like Makoto and the guys that do the Jennifer Bolton 12"s a lot too.

[ninjaKid]

yeah, i had a Marky remix of a Bebel Gilberto song in my car . . . then those SUCKAS jacked it! arrrrrrgh :(

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[djStill]

Originally posted by Aser
It's good to see there's a resurgence of song structure and melody in d&b. In recent years, it got to be too much about dark sounds. Everybody using the same synth sounds and basstones didn't help things.

Currently it's all about Brazilian d&b. Drumagick, Patife, XRS Land, Marky etc, etc, they're all killing it now. I like Makoto and the guys that do the Jennifer Bolton 12"s a lot too.



there has always been "song structure" & "melody" in d&b...
it's just certain styles are more "popular" at certain times...

in a way you are right about "brazilian" d&b...
however...would you not agree that "everyone" uses the "same"
sounds to produce this new "trendy" style?

balance is key.

[emilie]

ello luv! ;)

[djbadmonkey]

i just got reacquianted with my crate.

hello vinyl. hello mixer. hello orty's.

i missed my planet V.

[djStill]

Originally posted by emilie
ello luv! ;)


ello back luv! :heart:

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by ninjaKid
yeah, i had a Marky remix of a Bebel Gilberto song in my car . . . then those SUCKAS jacked it! arrrrrrgh :(

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god i've been trying to get my hands on that vinyl forever...
such a feel good track...

[djpayload]

Originally posted by djbadmonkey
i just got reacquianted with my crate.

hello vinyl. hello mixer. hello orty's.

i missed my planet V.

want to get married?

[incoglido]

Originally posted by akuma
trying to get a feel for how many of yall peeps are feelin this shit. as a drum n bass dj i personally love this stuff. currently loving releases by :
totalscience/digital/marcusintalex/phuncateck/peshay/dillinja/klute/polar/teebee.... not diggin the new roni size shit whatsoever.
any bassheads out there?
(not talkin about the 16th and mission baseheads)

peace.
akuma
http://www.est00.com


I guess it sometime helps to read other threads before creating ones own. I just stared a "phonem" thread which perhaps belongs here. anyhow, check it out. maybe you can help me.

[akuma]

Originally posted by incoglido
I just stared a "phonem" thread which perhaps belongs here. anyhow, check it out. maybe you can help me.

not really cause if you wanna talk about a specific group then by all means make a thread about that group...

i haven't heard of phonem but i have a friend named fonem (http://www.fonem.org/). i'll be on the lookout for the former and if you're in nyc be on the lookout for a blonde cutie that is the latter- she's a great human.


and i dunno know if i can help you. my help usually hurts.

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by akuma


not really cause if you wanna talk about a specific group then by all means make a thread about that group...

i haven't heard of phonem but i have a friend named fonem (http://www.fonem.org/). i'll be on the lookout for the former and if you're in nyc be on the lookout for a blonde cutie that is the latter- she's a great human.


and i dunno know if i can help you. my help usually hurts.

hahaha! get the fuck outa here! i know that girl! she used to live in Atlanta. LOL . . . small ass world!

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[akuma]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


hahaha! get the fuck outa here! i know that girl! she used to live in Atlanta. LOL . . . small ass world!

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rock on!

she used to tell me about them old party times in georgia :)

[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by djpayload


want to get married?

sure. but i'm a dood. my avatar is not me. i did have sex with my avatar though. don't ask me how that's done, i'm still shakin out the cobwebs.

i'm spinning a nye party tonight. they're expecting jiggy hiphop. and they'll get a little. but them imma drop some )EIB( on that ass and just see what kind of looks i get.

then i'll do my smoother set and get drunk to the sounds of carlito and addiction.

[fad3r]

i found that a lot of my friends that rock hip hop will listen to DnB more than trance or house. actually, many of my turntablist friends now spin jungle/dnb.

[djbadmonkey]

but there's a difference between hiphop and jiggy hiphop.

to me, real hiphop, dnb, and punk are concerned, they're all very close relatives.

[Aser]

Originally posted by djStill




there has always been "song structure" & "melody" in d&b...
it's just certain styles are more "popular" at certain times...

in a way you are right about "brazilian" d&b...
however...would you not agree that "everyone" uses the "same"
sounds to produce this new "trendy" style?

balance is key.

Hmm, I never said there was a total lack of melody, it was just predominated by darkness for the past few years.

In regards to using the same sounds in brazilian d&b. Keep in mind it's not just triggered sounds/samples, they're instruments being used to create these melodies. I wouldn't equate a guitar being used in a track as being comparable to a synth tone. One is a sound efx, the other is an instrument. So is all rock music the same because most songs use the same sounds (drums/guitar)?

I wouldn't discredit this new style as a trend either, it is quite interesting and complex. reviving interest in popular Brazilian musicians such as Jorge Ben, who penned one of the most well known Brazilian songs of all time (Mas Que Nada).

[djpayload]

Originally posted by djbadmonkey


sure. but i'm a dood. my avatar is not me. i did have sex with my avatar though. don't ask me how that's done, i'm still shakin out the cobwebs.

i'm spinning a nye party tonight. they're expecting jiggy hiphop. and they'll get a little. but them imma drop some )EIB( on that ass and just see what kind of looks i get.

then i'll do my smoother set and get drunk to the sounds of carlito and addiction.

Ah bollocks! You ruined my whole "looking for a dnb girlfriend" thing, damnt! Thats it, im off for the sake...

[djStill]

Originally posted by Aser


Hmm, I never said there was a total lack of melody, it was just predominated by darkness for the past few years.

In regards to using the same sounds in brazilian d&b. Keep in mind it's not just triggered sounds/samples, they're instruments being used to create these melodies. I wouldn't equate a guitar being used in a track as being comparable to a synth tone. One is a sound efx, the other is an instrument. So is all rock music the same because most songs use the same sounds (drums/guitar)?

I wouldn't discredit this new style as a trend either, it is quite interesting and complex. reviving interest in popular Brazilian musicians such as Jorge Ben, who penned one of the most well known Brazilian songs of all time (Mas Que Nada).


werd...i wasn't implying you were wrong with what you said...just trying to keep your mind open to all styles...i am fully aware of the elements involved in producing "brazilian" d'n'b...not knocking it at all!!!

i would just hate to see the "scene" be "predominated" by any one style...

know wut i'm sayin?!?!?!?

[dimbulb]

hey dudes,

i've been sort of a hermit lately and am WAY out of the loop with the dnb... :( anyway, got any suggestions of new releases that are worth checking out??? (i'm into the brazillian stuff right now, and some latin dnb)

thanx for your input :)

[fad3r]

i heard the new roni size. wasn't really diggin it. i like the new bad company one better. also, im lookin for suggestions.

[dimbulb]

John B's playing a set on Jan 23rd here with Choice Kutz and Gabriel Renwick here! I'm totally stoked!:D

[Nedesco]

Originally posted by fad3r
i heard the new roni size. wasn't really diggin it.

no way? i was about to pick that up. hmmmm..... you think two-step will ever be popular in the states? i hope ms. dynamite does the job better then craig david was supposely tired to do. hahaha...

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by fad3r
i heard the new roni size. wasn't really diggin it. i like the new bad company one better. also, im lookin for suggestions.

Too bad. I really like the new Roni Size. Better than the last Reprazent album by a mile and a half.

I haven't really listened to the new Bad Company all that much. Must get back to it soon!

[fad3r]

Originally posted by Nedesco


no way? i was about to pick that up. hmmmm..... you think two-step will ever be popular in the states? i hope ms. dynamite does the job better then craig david was supposely tired to do. hahaha...

don't mind me and pick it up, its not bad. i just wasn't diggin it. it does sound better than his previous album. anyways, opinions are like assholes: everyone has one but no one likes to hear em. :)

also, 2step and garage are slowly picking up here in vegas. every show i've been to, more and more folks show up.

btw, i wasn't rockin craig david's 2step stuff. i liked his slow jams better.

[djStill]

Originally posted by jskang


Too bad. I really like the new Roni Size. Better than the last Reprazent album by a mile and a half.

I haven't really listened to the new Bad Company all that much. Must get back to it soon!

i agree...i like the new roni size better than the last reprazent lp...however...it doesn't come close to the new forms lp...classic!!!

[djbadmonkey]

dood sup with people throwing parties not knowing about monitors.

how am i supposed to spin without monitors esp when you put 15's right in front of me :((((((

[RazeOner]

Originally posted by Nedesco


no way? i was about to pick that up. hmmmm..... you think two-step will ever be popular in the states? i hope ms. dynamite does the job better then craig david was supposely tired to do. hahaha... Personally, I don't think 2-step will ever make it here in the states, at least not like it's blown up across the pond. It has left it's mark though.... Timbaland has played around with some 2-step beats (kind of) along with some other remix djs.

[Ni dew]

come here to london.

Fabric.. The End.. everytime my friends come from HK etc.. i take em there and they love it. pop a couple pills down your neck and brock out.

my fave label is DSCi4

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by djbadmonkey
dood sup with people throwing parties not knowing about monitors.

how am i supposed to spin without monitors esp when you put 15's right in front of me :((((((

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN! i hate mixing in the headphones, esp. with the shoddy ones i'm usin since my sonys broke. waaaah i want my sonys back!

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[djbadmonkey]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN! i hate mixing in the headphones, esp. with the shoddy ones i'm usin since my sonys broke. waaaah i want my sonys back!

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word is bond, ad.

[schmee]

love playing both of them, and screwing with their dynamics (http://www.schmee.biz/backdoor/timeandbass/anniewarbass-web.mp3), especially in the afro/latin/reggae genres.

just at a slower tempo, and from organic sources if poss.

[joetron2030]

Has anyone mentioned that compound records is having a 60% off sale until 1/24?

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by jskang
Has anyone mentioned that compound records is having a 60% off sale until 1/24?

word up! you just did! i'm on it . . . hopefully it's not just on shittay backstock . . .

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[akuma]

Originally posted by ninjaKid
. . . hopefully it's not just on shittay backstock . . .

-ad


the sale is on everything they have left- unfortunately most of the wax they have left is the shittay backstock.

but they still have left some of the sweatshirts & tees i designed for them, so cop that shit!

R.I.P. compound


drum & bass forever.

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by akuma


but they still have left some of the sweatshirts & tees i designed for them, so cop that shit!


Which ones might these be? That's pretty cool.

[djbadmonkey]

Do0d compound is going under??? that's some shit :(

i loved that place...80% of my vinyl was from there. The guys were cool, though i can understand why people thought rinse was kind of an ass. but all in all, the dealings i had with compound were on the level and big up to the crew.

i never went to the new store...but the old store was awesome.

[akuma]

Originally posted by jskang


Which ones might these be? That's pretty cool.

thanks man.

they were at the merchandise link http://www.compoundrecords.com/home.htm
but i think the link is fucked up...


some other designs that never saw light of day :( http://est00.com/cmpd_designs.html


it was fun doing building with them... nate (dj ivry) is a great guy and i'm gonne be working with him in the future.

[joetron2030]

Cool stuff!

Yeah, I figured it might be under the fucked up link...

[45rpm]

i might add then that groovetech have a sale starting on the 13th. i get my records there and ship them home to australia.... it still works out cheaper after my shop discount!

[dimbulb]

i just got the Everything but the girl corcovado
Marky and XRS mixes

mellow...

[dimbulb]

3:02AM
just came from from a John B show... 80% deaf, ears ringing like crazy...
had a blast though, was right up at the DJ table, took some photos with my manual camera (i hope they turn out!!)
bumped into people i know here and there from school, great vibe overall :)

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by dimbulb
i just got the Everything but the girl corcovado
Marky and XRS mixes

mellow...

OOOOOH

must run to shop to-day! must have this!

still pissed that the motherfucker that stole my shit took my Bebel Gilberto remix . . . :(

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[dimbulb]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


OOOOOH

must run to shop to-day! must have this!

still pissed that the motherfucker that stole my shit took my Bebel Gilberto remix . . . :(

-ad


dude no way!!!
I've wanted that forEVER!!! damn bastard, I want to kick his arse for you! :mad:

[Aser]

the EBTG Marky rmx ain't that great IMO....

Check Patife's rmx of Koop "Waltz for Koop" and Drumagick's rmx of Koop "Summer Sun" for the hot shit.

I love Koop

[akuma]

Originally posted by Aser
Patife's rmx of Koop "Waltz for Koop"


^ blazing song right there


those rhodes and that bassline get me open

[akuma]

hey all yall bots in SF should come down to compound records this afternoon to say goodbye. they're having a farewell keg with all the fun farewell festivities that take place when you know it's your last time.

i'm the drunken monkey who'll be banging his head against the speaker.

come thu!

[YelloKitty]

oh shit, they're closing?!?!

[akuma]

yeah, they're done & it sucks mucho :(



"Compound Records San Francisco will be closing its doors for business on Friday Jan 24. Unfortunately, the economy and scene aren’t conducive to us continuing to operate at this time. We’d like to thank everyone for their support during the last four years and ask that you keep watching us for bigger and better projects coming soon. From now until Jan 24 everything in our inventory will be 60% off (12”s, Eps, LPs, CDs). We also just finished taking inventory so our online stock is now completely accurate.
Thanks once again, Compound Records"

R.I.P. Compound Records 1998-2002
drum & bass forever

[YelloKitty]

man that really sucks. it seems like the "scene" is dying down in SF. i was talking to this dnb dj, and he was saying that it was due to all these dnb djs having beef with each other, being very clique-y and such. what do you think?

[akuma]

i'd have to agree with your friend to some extent.
tho there was a lot more tension and beef in the past as the scene here was really thriving. no names need to be mentioned but lets just say cats weren't lookin out for each other and were seemingly going out of their way to spite others. the american way. and with this city of SF being so small, attitudes and crews clashing is bound to happen. though now a lot of the heads from the scene have thinned out, as this mass exodus from SF is taking place. so things are getting more intimate with not as many weeklies and also dnb events aren't falling on the same date as other ones- this was a big catalyst for the aforementioned beef. as always there's more to this drama that i don't know and don't wanna know. bottom line that i take away from all of this is that heads gotta remember to keep it about the music & respect one another.

so are you coming to compound? cause then i can give you your birfday pwehsents today. if not, i'll send em out.

[YelloKitty]

aww dang. i'd love to go, but my pa is picking me up soonish for birthday dinner with the fams! i'll save some food for you. :) thanks dan!

[djbadmonkey]

when i had my weekly in SF it was weird dealing with the politics. My brief foray into promoting was replete with betrayal, success, and failure and it's what i get for trying to get a dnb party to come up with a trance crew.

anyway, me zach & buckwheat (of skillz fame) had a small intimate thursday weekly shortly after eklektic left rico's. At the same time, Nate, Pressha, and the rest of the 'pound crew started a weekly at BaS. One night Rinse and Jamalski came through and a) bumped my set and b) eventually replaced me, zach and buck. I was kept on because i was cool with the promoters and i was korean like them so i could be "trusted." Eventually i ended up being cool with them, though not really on a first name basis but we'd talk whenever i'd come into shop. I spun a couple of sets with jamal (total crackhead, but nice guy) but that was pretty much that.

The first night of the new Rinse led party was pretty fly. R.A.W. came through along with rinse and flux, and the scene was poppin but because of improper permits the party got shut down. Eventually we moved it to san mateo and i had the upstairs in a 2 level "club" which was really a shitty restaurant, and tried to placate the idiot raver masses who wouldn't know DnB if it fucked em in the ass. Eventually the city pressured the party into closing and the shady ass venue owner didn't have proper permits either so it got shut down and voila, i was out.

But the politics of claiming a night, building clientele, it's a huge pain in the ass. I guess it's why people have to be shady, like it's the only way. Thing is, if the scene isn't poppin in SF, where is it gonna pop? NYC is alive though not thriving, LA is dead at least it seems that way, i guess the spot is philly nowadays.

oh well. what's the next step in the underground, overground, back to underground cycle?

[djStill]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN! i hate mixing in the headphones, esp. with the shoddy ones i'm usin since my sonys broke. waaaah i want my sonys back!

-ad

get sennheiser's!!!

[djStill]

Originally posted by Aser
the EBTG Marky rmx ain't that great IMO....

Check Patife's rmx of Koop "Waltz for Koop" and Drumagick's rmx of Koop "Summer Sun" for the hot shit.

I love Koop


the marky rmx is def hot...at least to the crowds i've played it for...
waltz for koop is great...

summer sun sounds too happy...so happy in fact it sounds like fake happiness...that shit gets my thumbs down...

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by djStill


get sennheiser's!!!

i got no moneyheiser :(

this kid is sellin me some vdj500s (i think) for mad cheap. will do until i get up funds for some better shits . . .

damned UPS did not come to Satellite with my EBTG! fockers . . . i have to spin tonight and i hate not having a bag o' stuff that i like. ahhh vell. blame the pre-WMC slump . . .

atlanta is poppin' pretty well . . . most of the drum and bass crews here are workin with each other. we had Black Sun Empire here on tuesday, mashin up the system with their eeeevil ass shit . . . got kinda monotonous after awhile but fun was still had by all :-) diesel and BC comin through next month. i think we got potential . . .

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[el bombastico]

I used to be in love with drum and bass when it was jungle. The problem was the goddamn scene. Too many guys trying to be dj's just get to get prestige(but sounding all the same)and too many guys trying to be b-boys. OG b-boys don't even give any mind to the dnb scene, it's all a joke to them.
I'm sad that the dnb music scene died down. Early in my rave career(around '92)I knew that dnb would be the next step in the evolution of techno. You could just hear it in the music, the beats needed to be sped up, some rawness needed to be added, and nobody could argue with the joy of a reggae bassline. Then all of these 'futuristic' songs with 'dark' basslines started coming out and basically sucked most of the soul out of the genre.
I know that there has been some good stuff released over the past few years, but the signal to noise ratio of good music released decreased and I just can't find the energy to find this stuff anymore.

ps-Squarepusher killed it anyway:D

http://www.lcshockey.com/issues/81/images/81mrd1.jpg

Drummond bass.

[Aser]

Originally posted by djStill


summer sun sounds too happy...so happy in fact it sounds like fake happiness...that shit gets my thumbs down...

hmmm, well it is supposed to give off a happy vibe. Have you heard the original version or listened to the Koop lp? Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Yukimi Nagano is purtay.......I love Swell Session.

anybody heard Wilson Simoninha "Mais um Lamento (Mad Zoo Mix)"? It's on Trama, one of Patife's favourites.

[djStill]

Originally posted by el bombastico
I used to be in love with drum and bass when it was jungle. The problem was the goddamn scene. Too many guys trying to be dj's just get to get prestige(but sounding all the same)and too many guys trying to be b-boys. OG b-boys don't even give any mind to the dnb scene, it's all a joke to them.
I'm sad that the dnb music scene died down. Early in my rave career(around '92)I knew that dnb would be the next step in the evolution of techno. You could just hear it in the music, the beats needed to be sped up, some rawness needed to be added, and nobody could argue with the joy of a reggae bassline. Then all of these 'futuristic' songs with 'dark' basslines started coming out and basically sucked most of the soul out of the genre.
I know that there has been some good stuff released over the past few years, but the signal to noise ratio of good music released decreased and I just can't find the energy to find this stuff anymore.

ps-Squarepusher killed it anyway:D



wow...el bombastico...you've really summed it up for everyone...i mean...you must have much knowledge regarding the "jungle/drum&bass" music and scene...

back when media called it "jungle" guys like photek were calling it "drum&bass"...so...who really cares what you call it...bottom line is it's it's own style of music...

you cannot have light without dark...or dark without light...

b-boys are b-boys and junglist's are junglist's...the "OG's" of either scene know the real deal...

so...are you still raving? or is your "career" over?

anyway...peace el

squarepusher is cool!

hope to see you at future d'n'b parties!!!

[djStill]

Originally posted by Aser


hmmm, well it is supposed to give off a happy vibe. Have you heard the original version or listened to the Koop lp? Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Yukimi Nagano is purtay.......I love Swell Session.

anybody heard Wilson Simoninha "Mais um Lamento (Mad Zoo Mix)"? It's on Trama, one of Patife's favourites.


hey aser...

yeah...i enjoy the koop lp...most of the tunes are well done...

and i love the patiffe rmx of "waltz for koop"
but i just can't get into that "summer sun"...believe me...i tried...
i work at breakbeatscience and have listened to it often...
just doesn't do it for me...and i play and own many different styles of d'n'b...

whatever tho...maybe if i was out and you were playing it with all of your heart...mixed it with some other tracks you like...i might like it too!!!

[kamenriderv3]

Originally posted by mewmew
http://www.lcshockey.com/issues/81/images/81mrd1.jpg

Drummond bass.

oh shit!

mew....you my monkey.

[Aser]

Originally posted by djStill



hey aser...

yeah...i enjoy the koop lp...most of the tunes are well done...

and i love the patiffe rmx of "waltz for koop"
but i just can't get into that "summer sun"...believe me...i tried...
i work at breakbeatscience and have listened to it often...
just doesn't do it for me...and i play and own many different styles of d'n'b...

whatever tho...maybe if i was out and you were playing it with all of your heart...mixed it with some other tracks you like...i might like it too!!!

I went to breakbeatscience when I was in the LES a few months back. Nice design, loved the minimalist layout. Although it was a hot September day and the ventilation was hurting. Is the drumagick rmx out, I don't think it is. Couple other releases I'm diggin right now..

Makoko "ep"
Funk N Flex "Feel The Love/Flow W/ Me"
Gilberto Gil "Dia De Sol (XRS rmx)
Drumagick "Malta"
MIST feat Jenna G "Lover"

I must admit, I kinda stopped buying d&b for a while but the changes in the scene recently led me back into it. For new releases I mostly buy broken beat, but I tend to spend most of my time diggin for jazz, soul/rare groove. New releases are too damn expensive nowadays. I like to bargain hunt.

[djStill]

Originally posted by Aser


I went to breakbeatscience when I was in the LES a few months back. Nice design, loved the minimalist layout. Although it was a hot September day and the ventilation was hurting. Is the drumagick rmx out, I don't think it is. Couple other releases I'm diggin right now..

Makoko "ep"
Funk N Flex "Feel The Love/Flow W/ Me"
Gilberto Gil "Dia De Sol (XRS rmx)
Drumagick "Malta"
MIST feat Jenna G "Lover"

I must admit, I kinda stopped buying d&b for a while but the changes in the scene recently led me back into it. For new releases I mostly buy broken beat, but I tend to spend most of my time diggin for jazz, soul/rare groove. New releases are too damn expensive nowadays. I like to bargain hunt.


nice...i def feel the broken beat...domu is the man!
most of the goya stuff and i just got this new phuturistix tune on hospital with a rmx by daluq...shit is hot...
the newest drumagick tune i have is on the new phuturo dbl pack which is promo right now...lots of horns!
very good vibes...
:)

[joetron2030]

Does anyone know if Klute will be putting out another album (or has since "Fear of People" came out)?

I love "Fear of People"!

[Surivatem]

i like the OG's

Grooverider, Goldie, Roni Size, Photek.

I've been listening to DJ Spooky's lately. (his hip hop is good as well)

[akuma]

Originally posted by jskang
Does anyone know if Klute will be putting out another album (or has since "Fear of People" came out)?

I love "Fear of People"!


no news of yet on a new album from klute. fear of people is classic.

he has a new label called 'commercial suicide' which has been putting out some so-so stuff, imo. his releases on his new label have been pretty trancey stuff that i'm not really digging. not similar to 'fear of people' so you're not missin out on much.

[joetron2030]

Thanks for the update on Klute!

I can see the progression/digression to trancier stuff... There was, I thought, a smidge of that on "Fear of People".

But, I agree that "Fear of People" is a classic.

[djpayload]

Originally posted by Aser


I went to breakbeatscience when I was in the LES a few months back. Nice design, loved the minimalist layout. Although it was a hot September day and the ventilation was hurting. Is the drumagick rmx out, I don't think it is. Couple other releases I'm diggin right now..

Makoko "ep"
Funk N Flex "Feel The Love/Flow W/ Me"
Gilberto Gil "Dia De Sol (XRS rmx)
Drumagick "Malta"
MIST feat Jenna G "Lover"

I must admit, I kinda stopped buying d&b for a while but the changes in the scene recently led me back into it. For new releases I mostly buy broken beat, but I tend to spend most of my time diggin for jazz, soul/rare groove. New releases are too damn expensive nowadays. I like to bargain hunt.

did "Dia De Sol" come out on vinyl?

[dimbulb]

bumped into a dude from my school today and he told me there are photos of moi from a recent show on John B's website through beta recordings...
http://www.beta-recordings.co.uk/clubs/index.cfm?sectionname=08+Jan+23+-+Victoria+Club
so if ya want to put a face to my name, i'm the one wearing a black tank top and blue bandana... cheers!

[akuma]

uh oh, dimbulb's cute!
best be prepared to be slobbered on by djpayload :p

[dimbulb]

*blush*
damn my huge arms from playing volleyball in highschool... *flex*
*ROAR*
who's djpayload?

[djpayload]

Originally posted by akuma
uh oh, dimbulb's cute!
best be prepared to be slobbered on by djpayload :p

what a load of bollocks, just because i like girls that are into dnb doesnt mean anything, ok it does, ill slober all over you the first chance i get bulbsie.... akira, you sneaky fucking russian!

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by djpayload


what a load of bollocks, just because i like girls that are into dnb doesnt mean anything, ok it does, ill slober all over you the first chance i get bulbsie.... akira, you sneaky fucking russian!

*passes over a bucket*

here ya go, don't want to get it on the wheels or yourself now :P

[djpayload]

Originally posted by dimbulb


*passes over a bucket*

here ya go, don't want to get it on the wheels or yourself now :P

yeah, cheerz for zee bucket, so, ummmmm.... hows it going? :p

[dimbulb]

just got

tommy knocker - all for love/brazil is back
dillinja - twist'em out

:D
all is well...

[akuma]

http://www.phillyjunglemassive.com/albums/oldschool/DSC00011_jsmooth_mess_dara.jpg


j-smooth @ platinum (philly)

"YOU CAN'T BE OLD SCHOOL IF YOU'RE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL"


:p

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by dimbulb
just got

dillinja - twist'em out



Is this a new track?

[djStill]

Originally posted by jskang


Is this a new track?


yes and no...

it's been played out by dj's for quite a while now on dubplate...
got released a couple of months ago...
there is already a DYLAN VIP rmx...which i think is better...
;)

[djStill]

Originally posted by akuma
http://www.phillyjunglemassive.com/albums/oldschool/DSC00011_jsmooth_mess_dara.jpg


j-smooth @ platinum (philly)

"YOU CAN'T BE OLD SCHOOL IF YOU'RE STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL"


:p


hey akuma...that is actually chris KAOS in the mix...the one like DARA is sporting the shaved head...can't make out the other two...

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by jskang


Is this a new track?

yeah, no its not new, the one I have has 'kids stuff' on the flipside... both kickin' tunes :)

but i don't think i've heard the VIP mix.. like to check it out..

[djStill]

Originally posted by dimbulb


yeah, no its not new, the one I have has 'kids stuff' on the flipside... both kickin' tunes :)

but i don't think i've hard the VIP mix.. like to check it out..


go to www.freak-recordings.com

it's in the audio section of "other" labels

there are also a bunch of other good tunes there.

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by djStill



go to www.freak-recordings.com

it's in the audio section of "other" labels

there are also a bunch of other good tunes there.

dude... the rmx is sweet... thanks!

[dimbulb]

someone here must know the answer to this:
what exactly is a dubplate? difference from EP/LP?
excuse my ignorance on this subject.

[Aser]

Originally posted by dimbulb
someone here must know the answer to this:
what exactly is a dubplate? difference from EP/LP?
excuse my ignorance on this subject.

umm, you want the simple or the long explanation?

In the d&b world, dubplates are basically songs that haven't been released yet. That's the simple version. Now.......

The exacty nature of dubplates dates back to Jamaican soundcrews from the late 60's. Basically, competing soundsystems would try to outduel each other w/ exclusive tunes. What devloped was the multitude of lyrics over the same riddim (beat). Basically, if a riddim blows up, the soundcrew will get the dj (they called the lyricists/singers as dj's just to clarify) to drop new vocals over the riddim. This newly recorded track would be taken down to an acetate pressing plant and an "one off" record would be pressed. Often times, soundcrews will press a plate right before a big soundclash, to give themselves a competitive edge. Perhaps throw in a diss on the other soundcrew's wack selection or such. Since the pressing process for dubplates/acetates differs drastically from the conventional method of mass production vinyl, the quality of the record suffers. An acetate is made by a spherical needle cutting the groove into a slab of wax. Sound quality intially is excellent but will degrade w/ each time the record has been played. Eventually to the point where it'll be unplayable. General expectancy of an acetate is about 50 plays before noticeable degradation occurs. You can get one done nowadays for $50 or so.

Now producers of all genres do one off pressings from time to time, however this is most prevalent in the drum and bass scenes. Plates sometimes gets rinsed for a year before it sees any commercial release. Plus often people will specifically only use certain dubs as secret weapons in their set, never releasing it to the public. So the only way you'll hear that particular song is by seeing this dj play.

ep=extended play (mini album of a few tracks or so)
lp=long play (full length album)

ok, that was long and boring. Hope that explains it.

[djStill]

it sucks when mc's go through your monitors...

too loud! can't hear my records clearly so i end up turning up the music...and then turning the mic down...but that just ends up being an endless cycle of me turning it down and mc turning it back up...

now my ears hurt...

i need those custom earplugs now!!!

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by Aser


umm, you want the simple or the long explanation?



that wasn't boring at all! thanks aser :)

p.s. do you know what's up with the banksy site? its been down forever...

[akuma]

Originally posted by djStill



hey akuma...that is actually chris KAOS in the mix...the one like DARA is sporting the shaved head...can't make out the other two...


right on.

the pic is named "jsmooth_mess_dara.jpg"
and thats mc messian (sp.) and dara so i deduced & thought it was j.

too many damn djs.

:p

[djStill]

Originally posted by akuma



right on.

the pic is named "jsmooth_mess_dara.jpg"
and thats mc messian (sp.) and dara so i deduced & thought it was j.

too many damn djs.

:p

word!!!

too many dj's

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by djStill
it sucks when mc's go through your monitors...

too loud! can't hear my records clearly so i end up turning up the music...and then turning the mic down...but that just ends up being an endless cycle of me turning it down and mc turning it back up...

now my ears hurt...

i need those custom earplugs now!!!

ye gods, tell me about it . . . and it's even worse when they are wack assssss. is it really that hard to set them up so that they don't come through the dj monitors? or is it just too easy to do it otherwise? (methinks a bit of both) . . .

a-d

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by akuma



right on.

the pic is named "jsmooth_mess_dara.jpg"
and thats mc messian (sp.) and dara so i deduced & thought it was j.

too many damn djs.

:p

J-Messinian ;)

man, we need to have a GR dnb throwdown . . . somewhere!

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[djStill]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


ye gods, tell me about it . . . and it's even worse when they are wack assssss. is it really that hard to set them up so that they don't come through the dj monitors? or is it just too easy to do it otherwise? (methinks a bit of both) . . .

a-d

yapp...dats da daddy!

[Aser]

Originally posted by dimbulb

p.s. do you know what's up with the banksy site? its been down forever...

not sure, but they were planning on remodelling it since they're about to start selling limited edition prints online instead of one off pieces. Good news since it'll make the prints more affordable.

although I'm quite jealous of my friend who got a piece @ the LA show while I'm stuck in Toronto's stale art scene.

[akuma]

Originally posted by ninjaKid


J-Messinian ;)

man, we need to have a GR dnb throwdown . . . somewhere!

-ad


sounds real good adam.
i say we pop it off here in the bay!


did someone say 5.92's place? ;)

[joetron2030]

For all the Minneapolis/St. Paul dnb heads, I noticed in yesterday's STrib A&E section that Bad Company are in town at the Quest sometime this week with another dj and an MC.

[djpayload]

Originally posted by akuma



sounds real good adam.
i say we pop it off here in the bay!


did someone say 5.92's place? ;)

I think ninjakid said something about he'll play for my flight to the bay area....

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by djpayload


I think ninjakid said something about he'll play for my flight to the bay area....

i'll PLAY for your flight if you PAY for mine . . . ;)

-ad

[akuma]

play for your flight?

damn, i like this new spin-a-set & get-a-roundtrip dealie.

;)

[akuma]

Originally posted by jskang
For all the Minneapolis/St. Paul dnb heads, I noticed in yesterday's STrib A&E section that Bad Company are in town at the Quest sometime this week with another dj and an MC.


from dogsonacid.com:


U.S. BADHUMAN - Dieselboy&BC tour dates

We will be touring together as originally planned with Dieselboy in the US on the following dates, i will be representing BC on my own for the last two weeks of the tour, which was actually the original plan due to other commitments we had made in Europe, and hasnt got anything to do with my recent plans which will begin to take effect after we have played at parties we had already agreed to play as teams (?) - hopefully a couple of you might know what the fuck im going on about ... anyway, looking forward to catching you guys in the US, got some new exclusives ready ; )


>> 6-Feb Minneapolis The Quest
>> 7-Feb Dallas Trees
>> 8-Feb Denver Vinyl
>> 9-Feb San Diego Canes
>> 11-Feb Sacramento The Rage
>> 12-Feb Phoenix Freedom
>> 13-Feb Seattle Chop Suey
>> 14-Feb Chicago The Metro
>> 15-Feb Albqurquey Sun Shine Theatre
>>18-Feb FT Lauderdale
>> 19-Feb Baltimore Sonar
>> 20-Feb Philly Platinum
>> 21-Feb Pittsburgh Metropol
>> 22-Feb Springfield The Asylum
>> 26-Feb NYC Limelight
>> 27-Feb Columbus Mekka
>> 28-Feb Atlanta Riviera
>> 1-Mar Porto Rico El T

[joetron2030]

Ah, yes, Dieselboy...

I couldn't remember if the paper said Dieselboy or "Diesel" and I didn't want to be too off base on my guess... :)

Too bad it's on a "school night". Otherwise, i'd be curious about what it'd be like. I haven't been to a dnb thing since 1998 or so.

[ninjaKid]

yeah, deeznuts and BeeCee will be here on the 28th . . . a good time will be had by all :D

ooh! how about a GR showcase at the Winter Music Conference . . . everybody, down to Miami!

-ad

[djStill]

Originally posted by ninjaKid
yeah, deeznuts and BeeCee will be here on the 28th . . . a good time will be had by all :D

ooh! how about a GR showcase at the Winter Music Conference . . . everybody, down to Miami!

-ad


word!

i am trying to make it down by saturday...
got booked in new mexico on the friday...trying to get to miami
to play a couple of after-hours...would love to meet up...
i'll hit you when i get confirmation.

:)

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by djStill



word!

i am trying to make it down by saturday...
got booked in new mexico on the friday...trying to get to miami
to play a couple of after-hours...would love to meet up...
i'll hit you when i get confirmation.

:)

mos definitely!

who else is comin to Miami? i am planning on goin for the whole week . . . time to start looking up party schedules . . .

-ad

[joetron2030]

What is wrong with me?

I was at my fave rekkid store last night. Found another version of Bad Company's "Shot Down on Safari" with a different mix CD for the 2nd disc. This one has a "Best of the Bad" mix CD.

So, now I have TWO copies of "Shot down on Safari"!

:)

[djpayload]

Originally posted by djStill



word!

i am trying to make it down by saturday...
got booked in new mexico on the friday...trying to get to miami
to play a couple of after-hours...would love to meet up...
i'll hit you when i get confirmation.

:)

Henry? Your on GR?


-mikey payload

[joetron2030]

So, I was listening to some of the newest/upcoming singles streamed from DnB Arena's website (http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/listen/listen-page.asp).

Some cool songs I heard:

- The new Dillinja & Lemon D "Crash Test" EP.
- Ray Keith "No No"
- Total Science "Squash (Bad Company Remix)"

[stilldeejay]

Originally posted by djpayload


Henry? Your on GR?


-mikey payload


yes. :)

[stilldeejay]

Originally posted by jskang
So, I was listening to some of the newest/upcoming singles streamed from DnB Arena's website (http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/listen/listen-page.asp).

Some cool songs I heard:

- The new Dillinja & Lemon D "Crash Test" EP.
- Ray Keith "No No"
- Total Science "Squash (Bad Company Remix)"

i like those too. :)

[akuma]

here's a dope video interview with dillinja & lemon d about their valve system...


http://31seconds.co.uk/valve_sound.rm

this is not a stream, so right click and save- 4.6 mb

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by akuma
here's a dope video interview with dillinja & lemon d about their valve system...


http://31seconds.co.uk/valve_sound.rm

this is not a stream, so right click and save- 4.6 mb

sweet, thanks d :)

[akuma]

hey mr.t here's a mix by matrix that just kills...

http://www.fuse.be/upload/music/matrix.rm


tho it kinda sucks cause it's in real player, cause i wanna burn to a cd :(

[fad3r]

any new cd's out? my last dnb purchases included roni size's new one, as well as bad company's shot down safari mix cd.

[akuma]

not any cd's lately rather than what you got...

but super mixes online as usual...

dj zero got lots of good shit
http://www.deejayzero.com/

classic old school under "why"
great new shit under "what" (a day in the life<---!!!)

[emilie]

AKUUUUUUUUUUUUMA

[akuma]

:mad:

[akuma]

:I

[ninjaKid]

Originally posted by akuma
hey mr.t here's a mix by matrix that just kills...

http://www.fuse.be/upload/music/matrix.rm


tho it kinda sucks cause it's in real player, cause i wanna burn to a cd :(

get at me . . . i have a program to convert from realaudio to mp3 . . . ;)

-ad

[dimbulb]

Originally posted by akuma
hey mr.t here's a mix by matrix that just kills...
http://www.fuse.be/upload/music/matrix.rm
tho it kinda sucks cause it's in real player, cause i wanna burn to a cd :(

*thud* <----- that was me falling over in my chair
*cling cling cling* <----- and this was my bling chains hitting the floor :p

nice one bruv :D

[akuma]

"I PITY THE FOOL THAT DON'T LIKE THE VIRUS SOUND!"

[fad3r]

Originally posted by akuma
hey mr.t here's a mix by matrix that just kills...

http://www.fuse.be/upload/music/matrix.rm


tho it kinda sucks cause it's in real player, cause i wanna burn to a cd :(

omg, i just heard this shit, and it fawkin rocks. anymore out there with the dope scratching skills over dnb beats?