I want to migrate...

[evillilgirl]

I want to move away from Louisville ky.. i have been saying this for 3 years now and i am fed up with living here.. i i do not enjoy it here.
Please tell me about your city and why it is a good city to live in.
Keep in mind
I have 2 of the coolest kids you'll ever meet they have seen probally every single foriegn film i have and are incredibly adaptable to things most people wouldn't think a kid could adapt to yet.. Plus i have another on the way..ages 6 and 5
so good schools are important.
but a cool laid back enviroment is important too..
Art school is an ambition I would like to do within the next 10 years of my life.. so good art school would be cool.
If I didn't have kids I would probally already have lived in chicago,detriot, or Newyork then cali.. I wouldn't mind living in cali if i could think I could afford it... I don't know motivate me please! So I can make a one year plan try to stick to it save every penny and move.

[shawgirl74]

Columbus, Ohio area. Pretty easy to find a job here, cost of living is low-- very reasonable. Lots of good schools (suburbs are better, try north/northwest columbus). CCAD and Ohio State are both in Columbus and I believe both offer residential fees. I really miss Columbus. It's pretty fucking diverse-- moreso than you would think and a really good place to live.

[filipEMO]

hey.. i REALLY don't mean to sound like an asshole but i'm curious.

a little while back, you'd come to a point where you were taking donations from the lounge.. how would it be remotely possible for you to afford cali's ridiculous real estate? i'm not trying to make any points here.. just curious is all. if there was a recovery thread i missed, then my bad. i also don't mean to bring up sad memories.. but it's bugging me to know.

[liquid mass]

err... that was because a tree CRASHED THROUGH HER HOUSE!


ahem.

[YelloKitty]

Originally posted by filipEMO
hey.. i REALLY don't mean to sound like an asshole but i'm curious.

a little while back, you'd come to a point where you were taking donations from the lounge.. how would it be remotely possible for you to afford cali's ridiculous real estate? i'm not trying to make any points here.. just curious is all. if there was a recovery thread i missed, then my bad. i also don't mean to bring up sad memories.. but it's bugging me to know.
she wasn't taking donations... she was given a lil bit of help. what the hell dude.

[tangent23]

migrate to australia!

my city is cool to bring kids up in..

dance culture is pretty dominant these days, cause all us oldies that stayed here are making a nice niche for ourselves [and are slowly taking over the city]..

plus we got good food, art, beaches and beer :D

bit far from the rest of the world tho, but hey, we gots internets..

[angoraphobia]

hey ebil....for some reason i see you in oregon....i dont know why but you seem like good oregon material....but i dont know much of place except that its pretty and tree-y and cheaper than california.....

[invictus]

Minneapolis is a good place to raise kids, and to live. They have one of the best public school systems in the country, and good state schools for college. Rents aren't the cheapest, but more affordable than LA (which is where we are now). We were able to rent a 2 bedroom house in a really nice part of the city for $825 about three years ago, but I don't know how much that's changed...

It's a really liberal city as well, more open politically than a lot of other places I've lived. There is a strong art community, lots of co-ops, cultural centers and other things liberals love.

Winters though..... winters fucking SUCK!!! Find a way to be gone for 5 months out of the year!

[Amuse_Me]

Lawrence, Ks cuz its fun...?

[liquid mass]

Originally posted by Amuse_Me
Lawrence, Ks cuz its fun...?
Why did you move, anyway? Not that I think that San Jose is some wonderful place. Nor is it any of my business.

psst, I think she's gone off to college...

[liquid mass]

I thought as much.

[yamchild]

Originally posted by angoraphobia
hey ebil....for some reason i see you in oregon....i dont know why but you seem like good oregon material....but i dont know much of place except that its pretty and tree-y and cheaper than california.....

oregon sounds like a good place because it's relatively inexpensive and beautiful. but since ebil has kids i think she should also take into account the fact that portland is one of the most polluted cities in america (yes, much worse than LA), and their public school system is in a lot of financial trouble.

[angoraphobia]

wow....that is a bit surprising.....i wonder how the other lesser known cities of Oregon fair....

[angoraphobia]

denver?

http://www.child.com/moms_dads/parenthood_issues/top10_cities.jsp?page=2

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/820000.html

[stinky]

Arizona is nice. I don't really recommend it though. Winters are really nice but the heat can bust your ass.

[angoraphobia]

housing is pretty cheap out that way....but man...i know i couldnt take that kind of heat.....

^ it depends where you are for cheapness...but costs are about half than in CA

as for the heat, people get used to it soon enough & as they say it is dry. this is why more people die in humid places when it gets hot. also, I consider the heat like the snow & ice. If it's too cold & yucky to go out you don't. Same with the heat. And it you want snow & ice it's a 2 hour drive up north & you can ski.

and right now it's sprinkly and mid-60s so I'm not complaining.

[evillilgirl]

Originally posted by filipEMO
hey.. i REALLY don't mean to sound like an asshole but i'm curious.

a little while back, you'd come to a point where you were taking donations from the lounge.. how would it be remotely possible for you to afford cali's ridiculous real estate? i'm not trying to make any points here.. just curious is all. if there was a recovery thread i missed, then my bad. i also don't mean to bring up sad memories.. but it's bugging me to know. Originally posted by evillilgirl

Art school is an ambition I would like to do
"within the next 10 years of my life"..

so good art school would be cool.

" If " I didn't have kids I would probally already have lived in chicago,detriot, or Newyork then cali.." I wouldn't mind living in cali
" if " i could think I could afford it" ...
I don't know motivate me please! So I can make a one year plan try to stick to it save every penny and move.
this whole statement is hypothical an idea... which nomatter how ridiculious that may sound...
since i accepted help from the kind kind lounge members who spared what they had to help my family.. (and since you have pointed out that i probally couldn't afford cali's real estate)
it was a time when we were homeless and i could barely afford to get socks for my daughter for school i wouldn't of been able to survive without the robots here amongst other things.
Seriously without them I have no idea what I would of done. Everyday I try harder to get back on my feet so I can find a way to repay all the robots for their kind compassion and kindness. Im not on my feet yet but they(the acts of the robots) it drives me.
If you would like to read more about it i did have an update thread called there and back again::
This year has been hard but that doesn't mean I shouldn't make a plan for my life that I would like to succeed. I probally couldn't afford cali's real estate ... but I can still try to shoot for something, to make my life different. I hope this was enough of an answer for you flippemo. And frankly right now my feet are itching for different scenery. Ever since we moved back home to ky there has been nothing but heartache... and I can't help but to remember ..it was always like that here.
~e

[ja.net]

LA can be a great city in many ways, but you'd have to do a bit of research in regard to schools (if you get to the point where you're ready to move and are considering LA, please let me know, I have some contacts and might be able to help identify some of the better public schools -- fmstlr may also have good info).

I don't want to speak for others, but my feeling is that when people can help their pals through a rough spot they do so because they feel it's the right thing to do, not because they want or expect any kind of repayment. You don't owe anybody any explanations.

[YelloKitty]

yeah evil, just take care of yourself and la familia. :heart:

[fmstlr]

I second Minneapolis, or some other large to huge wid-western cities. In terms of raising kids, I find that the midwestern 'mentality'/'attitude' seems to be the most balanced of all the regions of the US. (maybe that's nothing but a subjective view). Plus, in bigger cities, you'll have more opportunities for cultural events, foreign films, etc. L.A. is great fun but not so great for kids, prolonged exposure to air-pollutants leads to lower school performance and chronic illness later in life.

Another good west-coast option is seattle. Great natural beauty + the convenience and sophistication of a big city. Schools are okay there.

Most of Oregon might be a bit too Yokelous, but I think Portland is okay. Not sure about the schools there.

If you don't mind the summers, AZ has a lot of good cities in which you can still buy a decent house for cheap. Ask stinky for advice there.

Also try this
http://www.mostlivable.org/

[Margin Walker]

Originally posted by evillilgirl
Please tell me about your city and why it is a good city to live in.
Madison, WI has a lot of good things going for it. The schools are good (one's even named after Malcolm Shabazz (http://www.madison.k12.wi.us/shabazz/)/Malcolm X), there's a ton of parks and outdoor recreation, the water is potable, the air isn't polluted and the crime rate is really low. At least 3-5 times since the 90's Madison was voted "Best Place In America To Live." If you're interested in the various festivals and institutions, check out the Annual Manual (http://www.thedailypage.com/community/resources/). Also, here's a short story on the local electronica scene (http://www.thedailypage.com/going-out/music/news/managedit.php?intmusicnewsid=491). And last (but certainly not the least), the best reason to live in Madison is because it's the home of the motherfuckingest videostore in the world: Four Star Video Heaven (http://www.fourstarvideoheaven.com). Oh yeah, beer is cheap and there's a ton of great microbrews. :cool:

And RE: Art School. The UW has an art and MFA program and MATC has degrees in web design, graphic design, and animation. But you'd have to become a resident first because otherwise they'd be too expensive.

[Robocon^^]

What's wrong with Louisville? Other than I hear their summers are humid and nasty.

http://www.mostlivable.org/cities/louisville/home.html

[stinky]

the schools here are fair, really depends on your side of town. tons of charter schools with varying success. housing is ridiculously inexpensive. the scenary is quite beautiful. hopefully when the drug wars in mexico settle down it will be nice to go there again. there are great indie film theaters and good bookstores, but for the most part we are a couple years behind. the motto down here feels like, "i'll do it tomorrow." sometimes way too laid back. the best part of summer is monsoon season. i actually met someone from oc who did not know what monsoons were. lightning storms are great too. oh the sunsets make me drool! oranges and reds that are phenomenal. pretty decent sized art scene. and amazing mexican food. though i am itching to get out myself. i have been here all my life and ready to leave. some friends of mine moved here and just can't imagine living anywhere else. to each their own. :)

[Amuse_Me]

Originally posted by liquid mass

Why did you move, anyway? Not that I think that San Jose is some wonderful place. Nor is it any of my business.

college. Plus the music scene here kicks butt and the people here rock. I do love San Jose.. though not as much as I love trips to Santa Cruz

[fmstlr]

Originally posted by stinky
the schools here are fair, really depends on your side of town. tons of charter schools with varying success. housing is ridiculously inexpensive. the scenary is quite beautiful. hopefully when the drug wars in mexico settle down it will be nice to go there again. there are great indie film theaters and good bookstores, but for the most part we are a couple years behind. the motto down here feels like, "i'll do it tomorrow." sometimes way too laid back. the best part of summer is monsoon season. i actually met someone from oc who did not know what monsoons were. lightning storms are great too. oh the sunsets make me drool! oranges and reds that are phenomenal. pretty decent sized art scene. and amazing mexican food. though i am itching to get out myself. i have been here all my life and ready to leave. some friends of mine moved here and just can't imagine living anywhere else. to each their own. :)

IF scottsdale stays what it is now, I'd love to move there one of dese daze.

[axelhoney]

dream big
live bigger

[dragon chic]

Originally posted by filipEMO
hey.. i REALLY don't mean to sound like an asshole but i'm curious.

a little while back, you'd come to a point where you were taking donations from the lounge.. how would it be remotely possible for you to afford cali's ridiculous real estate? i'm not trying to make any points here.. just curious is all. if there was a recovery thread i missed, then my bad. i also don't mean to bring up sad memories.. but it's bugging me to know.


this is bullshit. i like you alot, but i'm dissapointed. what gives you the right to question her like that?

donations from the lounge? i don't remember, did she ask for the help, or did someone NICE start it up for her out of kindness and concern? you're being judgemental!

here's what you could have said: i hope that things are looking up for your family, blessed be.

a bonus would have been: congratulations on the little one, we love you!

jesus christ give me a break!

here's a few examples of what i've done in my life: got kicked out at 16, lived on the streets for 1 1/2 years, had my son at 17, moved many times, had NO money and no back up from "family", left junkie "husband", and went on welfare as a single mom.

quit a jillion shit assed jobs with no back up "plan", and still moved another dozen times! the last move we made my husband quit his shit money making job and we jetted up to seattle because portland sucked ass, a real gamble. big deal!

my point is this: people either live their lives they were meant to & stay true to themselves or they don't. sometimes you have to gamble, no matter what, to get to something better.

my suggestion evil: i've been in your shoes, i hated portland, and i would not suggest to anyone, to ever move there. yes, it's cheaper than most places and still on the west coast, but it's very racist, the economy is shittier than shit and the schools are deteriorating.

seattle has been much nicer in many ways; a better economy, still tough to get a job, but the pay is a little better and the city is trying to rebuild. cooler places, bigger and faster, but still clean for the most part. school system is better than cali and porkland, my son is wrapping up middle school this year, the schools are making it even though the district is having to cut back and make some changes.

the public transit is good overall, and despite what people think, the monorail could be good for this city. it's pretty kid friendly, with room for improvement. we pay almost $800 a month for a two bedroom, once i get settled in on a good job i think that i'll like it even more.

whatever you decide, i know that you'll leave when the time is right, you're not afraid of change, you know whats right for your family.

p.s. i had no idea that you're having another baby! rock on! how are you feeling? take care mama, i love you.

:heart:

[yamchild]

/\ dragon chic is so right one here.

she brings up an important point. sometimes a city will seem cheap to live in, but the economy is so shitty it's actually hard to survive. whereas there are areas that seem prohibitively expensive to live in, but the wage makes up for the higher cost of living. like one of the my friends who works in finance, she got ~$10,000 more per year to do the exact same job in sf compared to la. but i think this is more applicable to white-collar jobs, unless you find an area that has rent control and/or living wage.

[dragon chic]

yams, you are one of the few people that understand the porkland lie!

on the outside it seems like a really laid back and easy place to live, but it's not. it took my husband almost 6 months to find a job and when i tried to go back to work when our daughter was 14 months it was nearly impossible. i couldn't even get my foot in the door on a telemarketing gig!
*i've done it before!*.

porkland is also notorious for the pedophiles. most of the parents/kids we met had some kind of run in with a freak or two, *yes, this could happen anywhere, but we're talking about the nightly news warning people about asshole's that were just let out for 24 hours and they had already offended!*.

we learned all this shit the hard way. it's one thing to want to live in a cheaper area/neighborhood, but the flip side is that you give up alot to get there, sometimes it just doesn't pay off. we are still struggling to find the balance almost 5 years later.

[fad3r]

florida:

cost of living is decent. bountiful design/art jobs for you. its home to 2 of the top high schools in america.

above all:

mickey mouse for the kids

[filipEMO]

to everyone: i wasnt attacking evil. i was trying to make sure she knew of the property crisis we're experiencing here. even just renting is shit man.. we pay $1300+/month for a 2 bed 2 bath that has rats running around and the loudest pipes in the world..

now for buying, my boss' shit one bedroom home in north hollywood(his neighbor just shot and killed someone who lives just down the street and got off scott free.. just to let all outsiders know its not the best of areas) is estimated at 400k+..

thats what i was talking about.. i wasnt trying to put evil down for going thru hard times. i felt for her when everything happened.. but i was jobless at the time to pitch in, myself. if it was a case of me miswording what i meant to convey, i apologize, but i tried to nullify all skewed perceptions of my post by trying to establish that i wasn't trying to be an asshole.

if i'm just being ignorant about things, then sorry, but this is the report from ground zero.

love

[slackerbot]

ok, group hug.

[filipEMO]

i think it's just spooning for now..

[slackerbot]

i still think LA / Southern California is one of the better places to live. mainly for the weather, but most importantly for the variety of people and cultures.

contrary to popular belief, it's not impossible to live here. yes, real estate and rent is expensive. but there are affordable places to live. you just have to find them. and you may have to make some compromises.. you can live 5 minutes away from your work and pay up the ass for rent or mortgage. or you can live in an affordable neighborhood farther away and commute to work.

[dragon chic]

i'll spoon with you flip, i'm sorry that i jumped on you, i was wrong. i get very touchy about certain shit, a woman's got to have choices.

evil has worked hard her whole life, i can relate to her. please forgive me.

[zakkusan]

you could move to NEW mexico, but it sucks donkey ass here...