Top 5 hip hop albums 1990-2000

[5.92]

In no particular order
main source-breaking atoms
mobb deep-the infamous
gangstarr-daily operation
sadat x-wild cowboys
nas-illmatic

Ultimate 5 1986-2g
kid n play
k9 posse
wrecks n effect
L.A dream team
gerardo

dont say vanilla ice or mc hammer.let me just get those out of the way right now. the ultimate 5 was inspired by the 80's clothing thread.
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lets all laugh together

[falcor]

cypress hill, the red album. what the hell is it called?
eminem - slim shady
tribe called quest - the low end theory
digable planets - reachin' (a new refutation of time and space), my favorite chill album ever
kool moe dee - knowledge is king - i know this is before 1990 but i have to mention it as my first ever rap album purchased :P

[5.92]

the red one was self titled. the best thing about kool moe dee was his fucked up fake oakley blades. very borderline ultimate 5 if he wasnt old school.

[hentaidj]

Main Source - Breaking Atoms
Public Enemy - Fear Of A Black Planet
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
Mos Def & Talib Kweli - Presents Black Star
Notorious BIG - Ready To Die

Don't even get me started on singles...

[5.92]

no shit. I had to keep it general cuz something else would pop back into my head and make me want to modify the whole thread.

[dorsal one]

In no particular order:

Freestyle Fellowship- To Whom it May Concern
De La Soul- De La Soul is Dead
Del- No Need For Alarm
Gang Starr- Daily Operation
Black Sheep- Wolf in Sheeps Clothing

I whish I was at home cause I know this would look a little different. Criminal Minded by BDP has got to be up there, but that was like '87. Anybody ever check out Ice-T in Breakin'? How about Positive K's "I gotta man" or Kris Kross? Serious Ultimate 5 contenders.

[amboy]

atcq - low end theory
aceyalone - a book of human language
pharcyde bizarre ride ii
diggable planets - reachin'
haiku d'etat - haiku d'etat
outkast ATLiens
Naughty by Nature -- Naughty By Nature
Public Enemy - Fear of Black Planet
PM Dawn - Of the heart of the soul of the cross

[amboy]

aceyalone - guidelines
tribe called quest - buggin out
outkast - elevators
digable planets - where im from
the pharcyde - passin me by

[ironmonkey]

the best from the past decade:

wu tang clan "enter the 36 chambers"
de la soul "de la soul is dead"
nwa "niggaz4life"
dr dre "the chronic"
fugees "the score"

honorable mentions:
kool keith "dr octagon"
handsome boy modeling school "so hows your girl?"
a tribe called quest "midnight marauders"
snoop doggy dogg "doggy style"
"mos def and talib kweli are blackstar"
raekwon "only built for cuban linx"
ghostface killah "ironman"
the genius "liquid swords"
ol dirty bastard "return to the 36 chambers"
ol dirty "nigga please"

damn, theres more but i cant think.

peace

[ironmonkey]

i forgot about DELTRON 3030!!! del, automator, and kid koala how do you go wrong?

peace

[dorsal one]

Ghetto Boys- whatever one had "Gangster of Love"

[akuma]

wu-tang "enter the 36 chambers"
de la soul "de la soul is dead"
nas "illmatic"
company flow "funcrusher plus"
deltron 3030


peace-
akuma
http://www.est00.com

[5.92]

the geto boys album had the best lines esp. gangsta of love'turned me over on my back gold(?) opened up my buttcheeks and started licking out my asshole' they were ahead of their time getting their salads tossed back in the day. I didnt know Gold was a slang word. They would strain sometimes to make shit rhyme. Willie D did that shit a lot. I still use their lyrics in conversation to this day like 'that kicks more ass than a donkey' or if I'm gonna fight I'll say 'I'ma kick your monkey azz through the goalposts of hell'
the ultimate 5 suggestions have been funny so far.
remember candyman-knockin boots
young mc-all
tarrie B?
oaktown 357


update your gray matter/cuz one day it may matter.-del

what, no j5? i'm hurt, y'all.

i'm a recent re-convert to hip-hop, so i've missed out on everything past 1991 yet before this past august or so.
wu-who? <g>
this mos def character, however, is mad interesting. And has anybody here heard of thirstin howl? A friend some me some mp3s that are just wild- funny and intelligent and drool-filled.

[5.92]

j5's tight. thirstin howl just came out with some new shit. hip-hop was consistently good until about 94-95. Now most of the good shits underground. Fatbeats.com definately will bring you back to speed. There's so many resources now. Hip hop now is like metal in the late eighties. The r&b rap sounding shit is the equivolent to warrant or xtreme.
you'll also notice a generation gap; besides the emineminy assclowns you'll notice the cheesy skate gangstas or the indie rock shithead thats been down since 95 thinking that they're old school. you know as soon as they graduate, or drop out, of college they'll be embarrassed to admit that they listened to hip hop. I see these fuckheads everywhere.
I'm getting wayy bitter thinking about it so I'll stop right here. you should read 'something for you raggety hoes' in the magazine 'Lifesucksdie' They definately hit that shit right on the head.

Specific order:

1. Deltron 3030
2. Beastie Boys-Paul's Boutique
3. Tribe Called Quest-Midnight Marauders
4. Outkast-Aquemini
5. Mos Def & Telib Kwali present Blackstar

Big ups to akuma for knowing Deltron. It may be the best rap album of all time...if you haven't heard it, buy it, hear it, then debate me.

[ironmonkey]

Originally posted by 5.92
j5's tight. thirstin howl just came out with some new shit. hip-hop was consistently good until about 94-95. Now most of the good shits underground. Fatbeats.com definately will bring you back to speed. There's so many resources now. Hip hop now is like metal in the late eighties. The r&b rap sounding shit is the equivolent to warrant or xtreme. you'll also notice a generation gap; besides the emineminy assclowns you'll notice the cheesy skate gangstas or the indie rock shithead thats been down since 95 thinking that they're old school. you know as soon as they graduate, or drop out, of college they'll be embarrassed to admit that they listened to hip hop. I see these fuckheads everywhere.
I'm getting wayy bitter thinking about it so I'll stop right here. you should read 'something for you raggety hoes' in the magazine 'Lifesucksdie' They definately hit that shit right on the head.


j5 is coo, i only really like chali tuna tho(his voice is sick), i like cut chemist one of their djs. as for thirstin howl, i AINT feelin this guy. i think his voice is wack, he sounds like hes trying to scare you or something

haha "cheesy skate gangstas or the indie rock shithead thats been down since 95 thinking that theyre old school." werd up to this statement!

peace

[Edited by ironmonkey on 01-05-2001 at 03:48 PM]

[5.92]

I was being wayy too negative but I had to fill that kid in.
I never really vented like that before. sorry everyone but its true. now back to some funny.
more ultimate 5
too hype-do it to the crowd
brian (austin) green- whuts fugged up is that he's got pharcyde on his shit.
urban dance squad!(holy shit)
crucial conflict-hayyyy in the middle uh duh bomb!!
N2Deep-that one jam that used that public enemy instrumental.

[5.92]

Originally posted by Automator
Specific order:

1. Deltron 3030
2. Beastie Boys-Paul's Boutique
3. Tribe Called Quest-Midnight Marauders
4. Outkast-Aquemini
5. Mos Def & Telib Kwali present Blackstar

Big ups to akuma for knowing Deltron. It may be the best rap album of all time...if you haven't heard it, buy it, hear it, then debate me.
Ay are you DAN the automator? that hyping up deltron was kinda suspicious. hahaha.
deltron is fresh. the singer from BLUR is on that shit. thats a trip.

[hentaidj]

Originally posted by 5.92

too hype-do it to the crowd


Aw shit, that was the JAM!! Whatever happened to those twins and their producer, Hollywood Impact? I miss that era of hiphop...7A3, Stetsasonic, Kool G Rap (all Marley Marl production), Poor Righteous Teachers, Tragedy, Mantronix...

[5.92]

Originally posted by hentaidj
Originally posted by 5.92

too hype-do it to the crowd


Aw shit, that was the JAM!! Whatever happened to those twins and their producer, Hollywood Impact? I miss that era of hiphop...7A3, Stetsasonic, Kool G Rap (all Marley Marl production), Poor Righteous Teachers, Tragedy, Mantronix...

fuck I knew you were cool. My first hip hop show was stet,p.e,ice t and epmd. Bobby jimmy did 'roaches' in between epmd and stetsasonic. too hype came out with a follow up which was wack as hell. I remember seeing it used a while back so I listened to it and bummed the fuck out.
I need or somebody needs to make a thread of best hip hop albums from the 80's. Big Daddy Kane-long live the kane would definately have to be my top record.
damn....

[5.92]

Oh I almost forgot
"malik! Lets house this crowd!"-too hype

[amboy]

isnt that 'twin hype'? i remember listening to that in the back parking lot at dairy queen in renton in 89 along rob base and dj ez rock album, this left my wallet in el segundo tape single, that native tongues remix of buddy, and ill house you by the jbs. man remember tape singles? i shoulda been buyin vinyl. and what the hell happened to that house rap sound? nobody does that shit anymore.

another classic is 'swass' by sir mix a lot. rippin, buttermilk biscuit, all those songs were dope.

[amboy]

ha ha werd. you about said it. all these dumbfuck sucka djs too. i mean thats cool if you wanna dj, but just fuckin drop the records and mix and play music and shut the fuck up, right? i was in philadelphia for a while, and all these longtime really good party djs would have at most like 200 records. youve got these fools who in their first year of spinning records have 3000 records in their library.

is that article online? what issue is it?

[GEKIGANGER 3]

Originally posted by Orpheus
And has anybody here heard of thirstin howl? A friend some me some mp3s that are just wild- funny and intelligent and drool-filled.

ECKO!?!? NO PUEDO!!! POLO RICAN!!

[dorsal one]

Another one that you all probably slept on:

The Coup- Kill My Landlord

[ksd83]

j5 5 for real
wu tang's enter the wu
rass kass
beat junkies
roots

[Mikio4]

No particular order:
Deltron 3030
PE - Fear of a Black Planet
Naughty by Nature - 19Naughty3
Gangstarr - Hard to Earn
Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory

Seems like the same shit pops up over and over. Just lends credence to the notion that HipHop is largely singles driven and there aren't that many albums that stand the test of time (or become instant classics like Deltron). I'd wager if you did this same list with rock (punk or otherwise) you'd get a lot more variety in choices.

[chamada]

Originally posted by dorsal one
Another one that you all probably slept on:

The Coup- Kill My Landlord



The Coup - Kill My Landlord is definitely top 5, although I hear their first album 'Genocide and Juice' is even better. Can't find it since it's out of print. Can anybody help me out?

Others:
del - i wish my brother george was here
souls of mischief - 'til infinity
bahamadia - kollage

best album of all time? easy.
eric b. and rakim - paid in full (although it's mid 80's)

[iambullet]

i just started listening to hip-hop like a year ago, but here's my picks i have:

gang starr-full clip
mc paul barman-it's very stimulating
deltron 3030
tribe called quest-low end theory
wu-tang-36 chambers

i think a lot of these have already been mentioned.

[dorsal one]

The Coup - Kill My Landlord is definitely top 5, although I hear their first album 'Genocide and Juice' is even better. Can't find it since it's out of print. Can anybody help me out?

Kill My Landlord was their first and that was rereleased a few years ago. Genocide and Juice was their second, but unfortunately it has not been rereleased. That album has some funny stuff on there, like one song where they pretend to be at some rich white folks party and take on the identities of John D. Rockerfeller(sp)and Donald Trump and someone else. They start bustin rhymes about being rich white bastards, hella funny.

[Edamame]

"Illmatic"--Nas
"The Chronic"--Dr. Dre
"The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill"--L-Boogie
Every Single De La Soul Album


Man, this top 5 is killing me. There's too many to name.

Top Five? For a whole DECADE???
That's too difficult.
No particular order:

Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
The Infesticons - Gun Hill Road
Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
De La Soul - De La Soul is Dead
Fugees - The Score
Wutang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown

Damn, this is really difficult...there are so many more that are good.

Anybody listen to the Micranots album "Obelisk Movements?"
Thoughts?

[5.92]

Originally posted by amboy
ha ha werd. you about said it. all these dumbfuck sucka djs too. i mean thats cool if you wanna dj, but just fuckin drop the records and mix and play music and shut the fuck up, right? i was in philadelphia for a while, and all these longtime really good party djs would have at most like 200 records. youve got these fools who in their first year of spinning records have 3000 records in their library.

is that article online? what issue is it?
actually I got it from giant robot. lifesucksdie is from minneapolis. I dont know if theyre still around tho..
Email me and I'll send you the article. Its fuckin funny as shit.

I have a hard time dealing with the idea of some people being on the top 5 of the decade list. I am not trying to say that other people's choices are not good, they just seem a little (searching for right word) commercial. A few quick examples:

Eminem: If you want to hear a real white rapper, listen to MC Paul Barman.

36 Chambers: I own this, and it is pretty good, but it seems like the only real good parts involve Method Man.

Again, I am not saying anything negative, people have different preferences. I was just listing my disputes...

[ironmonkey]

Originally posted by Automator
I have a hard time dealing with the idea of some people being on the top 5 of the decade list. I am not trying to say that other people's choices are not good, they just seem a little (searching for right word) commercial. A few quick examples:

Eminem: If you want to hear a real white rapper, listen to MC Paul Barman.

36 Chambers: I own this, and it is pretty good, but it seems like the only real good parts involve Method Man.

Again, I am not saying anything negative, people have different preferences. I was just listing my disputes...


i agree wit you man, but then again i dont. i dont like eminem either BUT, i dont think paul barman is that great either. im not really down with that artsy hip hop, well i guess i am but paul barman takes it to another level. and his voice is wiggity wack. i say if you wanna hear a real white rapper listen to wither 3rd bass, and el-p from co flo.

36 chambers only parts were good were with meth? haha naw mane, this album can topple alot of records out there. commercial and underground included.

these are just my opinion tho, agree or disagree. peace to automator. when are you and keith gonna hook up again? haha!

"its aaaaaa secret.....never teach the wu tang..."

Top 5 No particular order:
Main Source- Breaking Atoms(cool cover too)
Paris- The Devil Made Me Do It
Outkast- Aquemini
Dead Prez- Let's Get Free
Tribe Called Quest- Low End Theory

Cos a Cracker named Justin said so.

[5.92]

Originally posted by Jubei
Top Five? For a whole DECADE???
That's too difficult.
No particular order:

Slick Rick - The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
The Infesticons - Gun Hill Road
Company Flow - Funcrusher Plus
Dr. Dre - The Chronic
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
De La Soul - De La Soul is Dead
Fugees - The Score
Wutang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Ultramagnetic MCs - Critical Beatdown

Damn, this is really difficult...there are so many more that are good.

Anybody listen to the Micranots album "Obelisk Movements?"
Thoughts?

adventures of slick rick and critical beatdown came out in the 80's..but those albums are definately classics.

this is a tough one, but in terms of significance and dopeness i would have to go with:

nwa-straight out of compton
public enemy-fear of a black planet
tribe-low end theory
company flow-funcrusher plus
wu tang clan-36 chambers

also the goats-tricks of the shade was insanely dope in the "hip-hopera" style.

[Edited by the aleph on 01-28-2001 at 02:32 PM]

[5.92]

Originally posted by the aleph
this is a tough one, but in terms of significance and dopeness i would have to go with:

nwa-straight out of compton
public enemy-fear of a black planet
tribe-low end theory
company flow-funcrusher plus
wu tang clan-36 chambers

also the goats-tricks of the shade was insanely dope in the "hip-hopera" style.

[Edited by the aleph on 01-28-2001 at 02:32 PM]
straight outta compton came out in 89. Maybe I should change the years... alright top5 from 88-00.
no particular order
1. Big Daddy Kane- Long live the Kane
2.Main source- breaking atoms
3.Gangstarr-Daily operation
4.BDP-by all means necessary
5.People under the stairs-all

I don't know when I will be hooking up with Keith again. I think the Modeling School may have been a once and done thing. You should maybe keep your eyes open for that in the future though.

[ironmonkey]

Originally posted by Automator
I don't know when I will be hooking up with Keith again. I think the Modeling School may have been a once and done thing. You should maybe keep your eyes open for that in the future though.



haha coo mane. its alright tho, deltron is more than enough to last me.

side note:yall know what would be sick? if prince paul, dan, keith, and del would hook up. this would be study material for 95% of the emcees and producers out there. its too bad most heads probably would sleep on it.

oh well, a monkey can dream.

Originally posted by ironmonkey
side note:yall know what would be sick? if prince paul, dan, keith, and del would hook up. this would be study material for 95% of the emcees and producers out there. its too bad most heads probably would sleep on it.

oh well, a monkey can dream. [/B]

well yeah... that would be good... maybe too good.

while i'm on the subject of hip hop what do you guys think of antipop consortium... i get mixed feeling, somedays i digg'em somedays i don't... maybe that's a good thing.. yeah it could definitely be a good thing. yeah..


this is a list thread so.... some of the stuff i'm digging at the moment (in hip-hopping way)

lootpack
analog brothers - (well i guess kool keith in general)
anything by quannum mc (especially gift of gab and latryx)
blackstar - and all the individual efforts of talib and mos-def
deltron
all doc octagon stuff (3000 automator mix!)
oh yeah can't forget supreme clientel (excellent album)
liquid swords!! (a masterpiece)
i'm also digging the new wu tang (interesting beats at times)
mystic journeymen

and all that jazz...

[scuba keef]

it's hard to pick five but the nominees are;

common- like water for chocolate
tash- rap life
whoridas- still smokin
dr dre- chronic 2001
keith murray- the most beatifullest thing in the world

honorable mention; the roots- illadelph half life

[sonnycheeba23]

Prince Among Thieves = Prince Paul
Six Feet Deep = Gravediggaz
Pauls Botique = Beastie Boys
Dr Octogon = Dr Octogon (crew)
Things Fall Apart = The Roots

[Willie D]

No particular order:

Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels...
I'm apparently the only one who thinks this smokes Low End.

Tim Dog - Pennicillin on Wax
Fuck Compton.

Dre - Chronic/Snoop Dog - Doggystyle
Think of it as a double disc.

Deltron 3030
Nouveau Classique.

Geto Boys - We Can't be Stopped
"Fuck a War" is timely again.



Best Single:

Eazy-E - Gimme That Nut

[sonnycheeba23]

I use to spin that track long ago, I think i still have the One inch punch single version, there have been so many remix's of that song though. I use to think it was cool but now it sounds kinda dated and cheesy to me. In actuality the main reason I picked up the track was cause of all the burroughs references.

Originally posted by randall fairbrook

bug powder dust - by Bomb the Bass feat. Justin Warfield...dope shit..this boy is rapping 'bout william burrough's books over a funky ass beat...i think it is on the Re-Birth of cool vol 2
[Edited by randall fairbrook on 05-05-2002 at 08:17 PM]

[Ricky]

Nobody mentioned KMD-black bastards

[phism]

white rappers aren't terribly uncommon.

el-p is a unique lyricist as well as one of the best producers in the underground. slug's 3/4 white. i know of a few white boiZZSESZZIZVK locally. most of rhymesayers is white i believe.

now...as far as albums...since we're not talking singles...entire albums are a completely different thing.

deltron 3030
dr. dre - the chronic
cannibal ox - the cold vein
black star
atmosphere - lucy ford
p.e. - fear of a black planet (93?)

i'm having trouble thinking right now of the division between 80s and 90s though.

[joetron2030]

Originally posted by phism
p.e. - fear of a black planet (93?)


Yeah, "Fear of a Black Planet" was before 1993. I would put it closer to 1990 or 1991.

[dorsal one]

No worries. I got the cd, just cut me a record of that...

Originally posted by randall fairbrook
Originally posted by dorsal one


The Coup - Kill My Landlord is definitely top 5, although I hear their first album 'Genocide and Juice' is even better. Can't find it since it's out of print. Can anybody help me out?

Kill My Landlord was their first and that was rereleased a few years ago. Genocide and Juice was their second, but unfortunately it has not been rereleased. That album has some funny stuff on there, like one song where they pretend to be at some rich white folks party and take on the identities of John D. Rockerfeller(sp)and Donald Trump and someone else. They start bustin rhymes about being rich white bastards, hella funny.

i got ya back.....bought this shit long time ago. i can make you a copy...just let me know that 300 other fools haven't already made you copies...maybe you can copy sump'in for meeeeee?

['jim]

Bump cause I'm looking for good stuff.

Interesting Fear of a Black Planet is on so many lists, it's my fave PE, but Nation of Millions always makes the critics lists.

...did Dan the Automator really post here?!

[Denstradamus]

Originally posted by 'jim
Bump cause I'm looking for good stuff.

Interesting Fear of a Black Planet is on so many lists, it's my fave PE, but Nation of Millions always makes the critics lists.

...did Dan the Automator really post here?!


yeah. he was eric nakamura's cousin IIRC.

oh and re: Public Enemy
Fear of a Black Planet definitely is way more pop friendly than Millions, but Millions was were that gritty siren sound originated.

[Denstradamus]

Originally posted by

36 Chambers: I own this, and it is pretty good, but it seems like the only real good parts involve Method Man.



i actually agree with this. it's a great album and it did introduce a completely new sound, but on pure musical enjoyment i thought liquid swords and strictly built for cuban linx were the greatest wu records.

[golivar]

hey den would you recommend that rza bobby digital record?

[Denstradamus]

Originally posted by golivar
hey den would you recommend that rza bobby digital record?

what's up g-unit!

i liked it! not many wu fans did though. it had a more glitchy sound than the usual rough Wu sound, but I did enjoy it.

['jim]

If you like old Wu, Bobby Digital has to grow on you, but it probably will.


Here's another for Den: What do you think of recent Wu (Iron Flag)? I didn't like cause it sounded too West Coast.

[Thirty Nine]

I used to lock myself in the closet and listen to "Fear Of..." by PE! Fuck yah, it was when the suburban kids started listening to "Rap", right around the time 2 Live Crew became the rebel thing to check out.

1.NWA "Straight outta Compton"
*Don`t care if it`s pre^90, people are still bumpin it.

2.Ice Cube "Death Certificate"

3.DJ Shadow "Entroducing"

4.Young MC "Stone Cold Rhymin"

5.3rd Bass "The Cactus Album"

[tumult]

Nas - Illmatic
Freestyle Fellowship - Innercity Griots
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
Gang Starr - Hard to Earn
NWA - efil4zaggin

[Steven P]

Must have missed this one the first time around. Anyway...

Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory
Yaggfu Front - Action Packed Adventure
Black Moon - Enta Da Stage
Craig Mack - Project: Funk the World
Pharcyde - Bizzare Ride to the...

[mwt.]

Originally posted by joetron2030


Yeah, "Fear of a Black Planet" was before 1993. I would put it closer to 1990 or 1991.

Black Planet was 1990.

In my opinion, one of the most overrated albums ever. I used to be the hugest P.E. follower and I felt like Black Planet was their first step on that long hill down. I think it was because of all the unnecessary filler and the redundence from past records. A theme that continues to this very day. Argue with me if you must, be it took a lot for them to fall from grace in my eyes back then.

My top five, off the top of my head:

Wu Tang--36 Chambers
GZA--Liquid Swords
KMD--Mr. Hood
DJ Shadow--Endtroducing...
Dr. Dre--The Chronic

I'll probably revise this when I glance over my cd collection later.

[charlie bucket]

company flow - funcrusher plus - huge underground album
dr dre - the chronic - i guess ill give it to dre he had a good run
nas - illmatic - greatest hiphop album ever and i dont really like almost anything nas has done since
a tribe called quest - midnight marauders - this is their best album in my opinion and one of my favorite albums ever
wu tang - right now i might like the first gravediggaz album more but this one was huge and influential at the time

but i dont know if you can sum up 10 years in 5 albums plus stuff that was popular in early 90's was dead by the late 90's. in my choices i almost ignored westcoast and i had no southern albums i think people that picked shadow's entroducing is a good choice because instrumental hiphop has jumped off after that.

[Steven P]

Originally posted by charlie bucket

...right now i might like the first gravediggaz album more...


I'm a huge fan of that album too. I remember rediscovering that one in my collection a while back and having it on in my CD player for about 3 weeks straight.

[Phong-One]

Souls of Mischief - 93 Til Infinity was mentioned just once in 5 pages of this thread. It deserces another mention.


Cypress Hill's self-titled joint was dope too.

[charlie bucket]

Originally posted by Steven P


I'm a huge fan of that album too. I remember rediscovering that one in my collection a while back and having it on in my CD player for about 3 weeks straight.

its really a great album that i think gets overlooked. even when it dropped it didnt get the respect i think it deserves people were kinda thrown off by the "horrorcore" style. but you had beats by rza and prince paul and i liked the raps too. the other gravediggaz stuff isnt that strong though.

[Steven P]

Originally posted by charlie bucket


the other gravediggaz stuff isnt that strong though.

You're telling me. I bought that thing with high hopes. I listened to it for about 30 minutes, then, through it out my drivers window. Seriously. hahah. oh well.

[stinky]

because five is not enough:

ice cube - amerikkka's most wanted (1990)
mos def - black on both sides (1999)
dmx - flesh of my flesh, blood of my blood (1998)
ol' dirty bastard - nigga please (1999)
outkast - atliens (1996)
prince paul - psychoanalysis: what is it? (1997)
x clan - to the east, blackwards (1990)
boogie down productions - live hardcore worldwide (1991)

['jim]

DMX? O RLY?

[stinky]

rly

[tumult]

souls of mischief was influential, but how about the O.G.s of stylin over beats, Freestyle Fellowship. I think I saw Aceyalone once, and I mentioned Freestyle Fellowship once, but damn, wtf.

[Amuse_Me]

souls of mischief are awesome.
i just got myself some Aesop Rock.

[DOOM!]

An outkast album needs to be on this list, it's just a question of which outkast album you want to pick.

The miseducation of L Boogie- Lauryn Hill

Mos Def- Black on Both Sides

Outside of these choices, the rest is tough to decide.

['jim]

I just finished re-tagging my Hip-Hop folder last night (& into this this morning, man, fuck guest stars). These are my top most played of that era (not being critical):

- Wu-Tang - 36 Chambers
- PE - Fear of a Black Planet
- Tribe - Midnight Marauders
- Digables - Reachin'
- Beasties - Ill Communication
- Fugees - The Score
- Roots - Do You Want More?
- DJ Shadow - Endtroducing
- KRS-One - Return of the Boom Bap
- Jeru - Wrath of the Math
- Digital Underground - Sex Packets

and for reasons I can't explain:

- PM Dawn - The Bliss Album


I couldn't do 5.

[FDM]

my bad...

[mwt.]

Originally posted by funkydrunknmonk
paul's boutique was '89.

Who said "Paul's Boutique?" Or was it edited out?

['jim]

What the? Maybe FDM means Paul's Boutique is better than Ill Comunication, but I didn't get it until later, so I haven't played it as much.

[FDM]

my bad my bad.....thought jim listed paul's boutique.

but yes, for the record, paul's boutique was better than ill communication.

but if they decided to "ill communication + check your head - filler tracks", that would most definitely be one of the best hip-hop albums of the 90's.

['jim]

I might have played Check Your Head more than both if I hadn't lost my copy, but Paul's Boutique is the obvious critical choice, yeah.

I need to make a Beastie mixtape.

['jim]

I wonder how most people's top 10 GOAT vs. top 10 most played would look?

There's some stuff I listen to shit out of it that I don't even consider "good".

[mwt.]

Beasties peeked with Paul's Boutique. Check Your Head would have been decent if they had gotten rid of the last 3/4 of it. Ill Communication I hated when I first heard it, but rediscovered it about ten years ago and really like now.

Beasties have this tendency to drop a record that I love on first listen, and then ages really poorly. I'm just now coming to the realization that To The 5 Borroughs isn't all that. I'm not asking them to go back to Paul's Boutique territory, because that record screams Summer of 89 to me. Same with 3 Feet High & Rising.

['jim]

5 Boroughs was the first serious downturn for me, not bad but I haven't listened to it much. I really loved Hello Nasty.

But I imagine the Beasties sitting around smokin up planning a record and they come up with all these crazy ideas. This is a good way to plan a record for anybody, but they actually USE every crazy idea.

[mwt.]

The thing I do like about Burroughs is that it's the first time in a long time they weren't all over the place with filler and funk and shit. It was straight up hiphop, which is good. It's just not that great at the end of the day.

Not that I want them to revert back to their early hiphop career, but I would like to see what they would come up with if put back in the studio with Rick Rubin today.

[650lex]

I thought they were just fucking around when they said they wanted to mutt dog show to be one of their opening acts

so when I saw Beasties here in sf last year
sure enough - MUTT DOG SHOW

poor Talib Kweli - having to follow that!

it was some funny shit though

Paul's Boutique/Check Your Head - it's a REAL close call for me!

[FDM]

^ they brought the dog act when they came here last year.

it was.....strange.

[650lex]

in a very lovable way...

[tumult]

Originally posted by DOOM!
An outkast album needs to be on this list, it's just a question of which outkast album you want to pick.

The miseducation of L Boogie- Lauryn Hill

Mos Def- Black on Both Sides

Outside of these choices, the rest is tough to decide.

All of outkast's albums are good, but I think the best 2 were Aquemini and Southern Playalistic.

[mwt.]

I almost forgot about the first two Pharcyde records. Both excellent.

[BOON]

I think it speaks mad volumes to Outkast that people have listed i think each of their albums from the 90s and that it doesnt even include Stankonia and TLB/SB. I think thats what makes them the GOAT in themselves and that they also already had the whole back-pack and benz crowd going at the same time before people started mentioning that about kanye...

Not too many hip hop acts get better, esp. when they come out with strong shit to start off with. How many are there at all? Some of held consitency (Tribe, de la, jigga, ) but did they really ever top themselves? Beasite may not have topped themselves each time but kept putting out good and different stuff. Kanye's probably the only one who has the potential to do that right now (in the states?).

The brit mcs will keep things interesting with the Streets III, MIA II, etc though.

Does the Wu-Tang have another great album in them? I still think Meth is one of the dopest mcs out there....

[BOON]

Originally posted by mwt.

Not that I want them to revert back to their early hiphop career, but I would like to see what they would come up with if put back in the studio with Rick Rubin today.

Yeeeeah!

[Chairman Mau]

this thread is too hard.

[650lex]

props to Aquemini

it's all about Spootieottiedopalicious...that's the cut!

[Denstradamus]

Originally posted by stinky

x clan - to the east, blackwards (1990)


I wasn't really in the mood to start a thread, but I wanted to mention it somewhere so I might as well mention it here...

http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5471


Professor X of X-Clan Dies
By Houston Williams
Date: 3/17/2006 7:15 pm

Professor X of X-Clan has died in a New York-area hospital after a bout with meningitis, sources close to the situation told AllHipHop.com.

As a member of X-Clan, Professor X gained notoriety for his catch phrases "Vainglorious" and dissed fools by calling them "sissies."

Additionally, Professor X, whose real name was Lumumba Carson, was the son of the late Civil Rights pioneer Sonny Carson, who produced The Education of Sonny Carson.

He also founded the grassroots organization BlackWatch.

Meningitis is a byproduct of bacterial or viral infections that overcome the body's natural immune system.

The aggressive entities can be transmitted from other people through sneezing, coughing, kissing, infected blood, or contaminated water or food.

In August 2004, Professor X, auctioned off his time on eBay for a night on the town in New York City.

X-Clan released a pair of critically acclaimed albums, To the East, Blackwards (1990) and Xodus (1992), but soon after the Brooklyn-based collective disbanded.

In December 2005, X-Clan announced a comeback, but it was unclear if Professor X was party to the reunion. In 1995, X-Clan group member Sugar Shaft died from complications related to the AIDS virus.

Funeral arrangements haven’t been announced.

[mwt.]

I thought that said "Professor Griff" at first. Dammit.

['jim]

I had the Professor Griff solo album. He gives a shout out to Bill Cosby and Mao Tse Tung in the same breath. And that was the best song.


But anyway, X-Clan. I feel like a tool only buying somebody's records after they just died, but now I'm gonna have to.

[grandpa_shig]

dudes? there arent enough of these to express my true feelings.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:






hmmm.

nope. looks like the board wont allow me to be that confused.

['jim]

[ bump ]

[puppy fields]

wut? something changed?

[Mikio4]

wut? something changed?

Yes, now this thread has a funereal quality to it. Like a wake for a dead art.

['jim]

jeez.

[puppy fields]

Yes, now this thread has a funereal quality to it. Like a wake for a dead art.

lulz