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Make Room
10-03-2001, 09:03 PM
Anyone?
etokle
03-04-2002, 11:01 AM
I knew the first time I heard "Gold" that he was trying to appeal to the whole White Hat/Trustafarian demographic. Looks like he succeeded.
I saw him at the House of Blues Hollywood a couple of months ago. 15 minute guitar solos. I miss Dave Rawlings...
"La Cienega Just Smiled" is a kick ass song though. I can do without "Enemy Fire".
I heard the new single is "Answering Bell". Sounds like Aaron Neville. Soon to be the new PKE theme song. Blah.
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YelloKitty
03-04-2002, 02:45 PM
i think he should just stick to whiskeytown stuff.
etokle
03-04-2002, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by YelloKitty
i think he should just stick to whiskeytown stuff.
I agree. Unfortunately, he is on record as saying when Whiskeytown made "Pneumonia" it was to be the official, final Alt-country album of all time (for everyone, not just Whiskeytown). I think someone needs to let the Old 97s know.
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Asharak
03-04-2002, 06:00 PM
Me am no like him.
[Edited by Waco Jesus on 03-05-2002 at 02:50 PM]
tsar nicholas
03-04-2002, 06:12 PM
Ya know he's wack 'cause his name rhymes with "Bryan Adams."
YelloKitty
03-04-2002, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by etokle
Originally posted by YelloKitty
i think he should just stick to whiskeytown stuff.
I agree. Unfortunately, he is on record as saying when Whiskeytown made "Pneumonia" it was to be the official, final Alt-country album of all time (for everyone, not just Whiskeytown). I think someone needs to let the Old 97s know.
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ahem, jeff tweedy? wilco needs to represent.
Margin Walker
03-04-2002, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by ThatGirlJing
Frat Boys and Hippies. White girls doing the weird arm waving/wiggling thing above their heads, off rhythm.
Uptown VH1 crowd, Amebercombie, BR, & American Eagle in effect.
It's certainly not his fault, but his crowds are the squarest bunch of White Hats & yuppies I've ever seen. The gig I saw in December, I overheard the stupidest comments I've ever heard at a concert (example: "He put his cigarette under his guitar string! I've never seen that before!"). I've certainly got a beef against the guy (friend of a friend kinda stuff), but he does seemed to have grown up quite a bit & isn't nearly as big of a backstabbing, arrogant prick as he used to be.
As for his music, I'm just glad that his stuff is finally being released. Ever since early on, there was this big buzz about how prolific the guy was & alot of the early Whiskeytown stuff is just different versions of the same song.
frogbelly
03-05-2002, 12:12 PM
Mr. Adams likes to joke around but I think he should just stick to puttin' together a good show and quit all the frills. He's gonna wind up like the damn Goo Goo Dolls or something. He is letting this star status get to him. I love his record so he should just come out Ramones-style and play them one right after the other and get the hell off the stage. That would be perfect.
etokle
03-05-2002, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by YelloKitty
ahem, jeff tweedy? wilco needs to represent.
Have you heard Yankee Hotel Foxtrot? I've had it for a while and it is one of the best records I've heard in years. Jim O'Rourke and Wilco together are genius.
Unfortunately, it is definititely NOT alt-country, so looks like Tweedy is going along with the Ryan Adams-imposed death knell. A couple of good Post-Alt-Country CDs you should check out:
Central Falls "Latitude" on Atavistic Records
Okkervil River "Don't Fall in Love With Everything You See" on Jagjaguwar.
The new Lambchop is also excellent.
Who needs ya, Ryan?
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YelloKitty
03-05-2002, 04:45 PM
is yankee hotel foxtrot the one that isn't out yet but available to lissen to online? i've only heard a couple of songs, but i still like it a lot. plus i saw them a few months ago... man that was dope.
Margin Walker
09-30-2002, 08:14 PM
From October's Uncut (w/ The Jam on the cover):
An interview with Ryan Adams where he talks through each track on "Demolition":
1.Nuclear
"The songs on the album come from five different sessions and in effect they
were five different albums, so I'm still holding onto a lot of tracks. "Nuclear"comes from a session in Nashville with The Pink Hearts, recorded after Gold. But the song was written in LA. It's a reaction to meeting someone pretty intense. It's a song about change"
2.Hallelujah
"That's from a session I called 48 Hours which was recorded straight after
I'd finished Gold. I called Ethan Johns and said I'd got more songs I needed
to record. I thought I had a whole other record. "Hallelujah"was written when
I was living in the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel. I was looking for a way to
express a bunch of crap I'd been dealing with and "Hallelujah" was the happy
accident that came out. I finished the lyrics seconds before I recorded it. It's vague but to the point"
3.You Will Always Be The Same
"The best song ever written about Beth Orton. And I've written several. I was
in Stockholm on tour with her, straight after we'd recorded "Brown Sugar" for
the Uncut Rolling Stones CD. I recorded nine songs in one session while we
were there and this was on of them. I was listening to Nick Drake and Joni
Mitchell and a lot of stuff like that. I think the sentiment is lovely. What I
was saying was that the world can get fucked up as hell, but you will always
mean the same thing to me"
4.Desire
"I don't know why I wanted to do that song. Another totally unrequited
romance, I guess. I really wanted someone's company and attention. In true
singer-songwriter bullshit fashion, I recorded the song and she flipped her
wig. It's from 48 Hours session, which was really inspired by going to see
Alanis Morissette play. She was amazing and it just made me feel I had to go
back to the studio and try harder"
5. Cry On Demand
"That's from a session I call The Suicide Handbooks, which was me and Bucky
Baxter. It's a very mean song and I really shouldn't have written it. Mmmm. Let's move on..."
6.Starting To Hurt
"It was recorded in Nashville with The Pink Hearts. Billy Mercer had told me
this story about a woman jumping off a building. We were out in Nashville
having a few beers because that's all there is to do there and Billy
said "That's the building". She'd gone up to the top, handed someone her baby and jumped. I had the riff but no words to the song, so I tried to put myself into her character. You can't begin to imagine how she must have been feeling but I tried"
7.She Wants To Play Hearts
"My favourite song on the album and from The Suicide Handbooks. The songs
from that might have been the follow-up to Heartbreaker, but I didn't want to
be the bummer king, so I made Gold instead. Now I want to be the bummer king again, because someone's got to do it. A lot of the songs from that session are about a girl in Hollywood. It was a painful break-up,so I went back to Nashville, lost weight, took too many drugs and wrote that song. It's aboutmissing someone and maybe missing myself."
8.Tennessee Sucks
"That song is about Tennessee really sucking. Ha!! It sucks in the
summer, worse even than New York. It's not only hot but really humid. Even the beer doesn't help you. I wrote it as a gag. It's from the second of The Pink Hearts sessions on the record, with Bucky playing some really fucked-up Paul Simon guitar shit that I don't know what is. There's another song on the same subject called "Saturday Night" that almost made the record."
9.Dear Chicago
"Another from The Suicide Handbooks and another heavy song. I wasn't sure
about love any more. It's reflecting on the same thing I always do--past
romance. It's saying I think I've fallen out of love with you and I'm feeling
good about it. I'm free. For a second."
10.Gimme A Sign
"Written the day before I met Ms Winona Ryder. She was passing through, I was fooling about in the studio with The Pink Hearts. That's how I remember it. It was a really good week. I think I wrote it about an American sit-com about vampires called Dark Shadows. But I don't remember too well. When The Pink Hearts are around a lot of pot tends to get smoked."
11.Tomorrow
"I wrote that with a friend of mine, a playwright called Kerry (sic)
Hamilton,who has since died of cancer. I was living in Room 1034 at the Hollywood Roosevelt,and it was written the day before she was going back to
Colarado. It was the last time I was to see Kerry healthy.I'm still going
through it and haven't been able to touch it in a song."
12.Chin up,Cheer Up
"It's bluegrass meets The Smiths. Kind of. The chord changes are Johnny
Marr-and I'm still studying that guy. I'd been in England just before I wrote
it, so it must be about someone unnamed from England who is a better
songwriter than I am. You know who I mean."
13.Jesus(Don't Touch My Baby)
"Written about the same subject as "Tomorrow". My California phase was actually quite creative. That was when I found out that my friend was sick. It was during a Pink Hearts session and I was so upset I kicked them all out of the studio. But I started playing around with the drum machine and this came out. Think I'd been listening to too much Radiohead when I recorded it."
captainbeefheart
10-02-2002, 06:55 AM
When he played in atlanta he had elton john come out on stage with him and play. Thats pretty cool.
joetron2030
10-02-2002, 07:17 AM
Wilco's "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" was the "dropped by Reprise" album. But, it's been out since ... I don't know. It's been out awhile.
But, really, I don't think Wilco's made an all-alt.country album since "A.M."
Ryan Adams angered by Bryan Adams quip
NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Singer-songwriter
Ryan Adams is not amused by the similarity of
his name to Canadian rocker Bryan Adams.
At a Ryan Adams concert at the Ryman
Auditorium on Tuesday, someone in the
audience yelled out a request for Summer of
'69, a Bryan Adams hit.
Ryan Adams, former leader of the band
Whiskeytown, reacted with stream of expletives
and ordered the house lights turned on, the
Tennessean newspaper reported.
The alternative country musician found the fan
who made the joke request, paid him $30 cash
as a refund for the show, ordered him to leave
and said he wouldn't play another note until
that happened.
Ryman general manager Pam Matthews
stopped the fan on his way out, "apologized
profusely" and allowed him back into the
concert.
The fan kept Adams's $30.
Make Room
10-19-2002, 10:10 PM
"Hey there, Mrs. Lovely" is a great song.
Make Room
11-01-2002, 12:11 AM
http://www.nme.com/news/103374.htm
Ryan Adams loves Oasis!
coxon
11-04-2002, 04:40 AM
dont like his cover of 'wonderwall'
Margin Walker
03-14-2004, 03:21 PM
Ugh, I just saw his latest video. My first reaction was "Why the hell is Beck singing into a blue lightbulb?" but I soon realized 1) it was Ryan Adams & 2) the crappy song sounded like The Cure.
[Repo Man]"Man, I can't believe I used to like that guy's music"[/Repo Man]
Amuse_Me
03-14-2004, 03:56 PM
I read an article on him in Spin. he comes off like a fuckass.
lakebottom
03-14-2004, 04:06 PM
Did y'all hear about this?
http://www.nme.com/news/107444.htm
Thirty Nine
03-14-2004, 06:17 PM
He's probably one of the best songwriters right now. "Heartbreaker", "Gold", the pair of LPs he just released--I'm in awe of him.
"This House Is Not A Home", "Burning Photographs" are my recent faves, while the first two albums a all-killer, no filler.
hippyjonny
03-14-2004, 11:38 PM
whiskey town is good, solo stuff is meh
YelloKitty
03-14-2004, 11:45 PM
thats what i was 'bout to say.
Thirty Nine
03-14-2004, 11:53 PM
To me it's the other way around. When Whiskeytown existed, nobody gave a toss about them...as soon as homeboy dropped "Heartbreaker" you can actually hear him and the songs that took the album to cult-hit status. A song like "Winding Wheel" is better than anything his old band ever did...
DJ LunchBox
03-16-2004, 05:18 PM
Still like his cover of Wonderwall.
ja.net
11-17-2004, 10:13 AM
I had every reason to expect I'd dislike his stuff, based on reactions like the ones in this thread, plus the general wanky vibe. Got an unlabeled cd from a friend recently, and one track was "Shadowlands" -- maybe it just sounds really right in this particular mix, but this song quite hit the spot. I must've listened to it fifty times already. Once again, music surprises me.
^that whole current cd is quite nice
Thirty Nine
11-17-2004, 07:10 PM
Most people--all of whom slag him off--have only read interviews and ASSUMES that there isn`t a decent songwriter underneath the imagery & marketing.
But I understand music is something many live vicariously through, dissected and analyzed thoroughly for `credibility`... and inept anti-social `indie` people, traditionalists and everybody inbetween has a double standard for a person like Ryan Adams.
Thirty Nine
11-17-2004, 07:10 PM
It`s his fault, really.
unhip
11-17-2004, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by tsar nicholas
Ya know he's wack 'cause his name rhymes with "Bryan Adams."
charlos3000
09-20-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by ja.net
I had every reason to expect I'd dislike his stuff, based on reactions like the ones in this thread, plus the general wanky vibe. Got an unlabeled cd from a friend recently, and one track was "Shadowlands" -- maybe it just sounds really right in this particular mix, but this song quite hit the spot. I must've listened to it fifty times already. Once again, music surprises me.
i can't stop listening to "come pick me up"
appeals to my acoustic guitar playing singer songwriter
Thirty Nine
09-20-2006, 05:59 PM
For hype-free Ryan, you can still go to his first solo LPs, "heartbreaker" and "gold", but afterwards his output is just so phenomenal. It`ll take a long, long time for everybody to catch up to his material, only his hardcore fans can for the moment.
"This House Is Not For Sale" off Love Is Hell comes to mind as a good song, and listening to Dylan recently, I know where young lifted "To Be Young" (off Heartbreaker) off of...
"Rock n Roll" is good karaoke, but the pair of Blondie/U2 ones, "Alive" and "Lonliest Boy" pre-dates all the Interpols, Franzs, Editors, etc.
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