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kingka
03-17-2008, 06:13 AM
has anyone ever tried this? I'm really curious about it. its legal in canada. but soon to be illegal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

premium
03-17-2008, 06:35 AM
haven't tried it, but now i want to.

kingka
03-17-2008, 06:52 AM
yea, not sure if I can handle an hour and a half trip I've got shit to do....... but id rather eat it and not smoke it.... bah. I dunno.

kingka
03-17-2008, 06:55 AM
hehe ...

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242224

wordmad
03-17-2008, 09:29 AM
I was just gonna get some, actually. Still legal here. I'll keep you posted.

beanie
03-17-2008, 10:05 AM
I heard this is legal in cali., and from what I've seen the trip lasts no where near an hour. My friends tried it out of a hooka once and they all tripped out for something like 10 mins strong and BAMF just came back to reality like that. They were coming down for like the entirety of the night but the high only lasted them like 10 mins.

I do kinda wanna try it though, but some of the experiences expressed in that wiki scared the shit outta me.

charlos3000
03-17-2008, 10:08 AM
yeah it's only a 5-10 min high. or so i hear

sanjay
03-17-2008, 10:09 AM
You should always refer to it as Salvia Divinorum since Salvia is a very common plant genus. I have taken Salvia Milthiorizza for circulation issues, but I am not experienced in the ways of divinorum.

kingka
03-17-2008, 10:11 AM
yea man, I dont ant to be on some crazy that messes with me the whole day. and I'd rather not be like that around my girl either. but it seems like an easier way to do some serious ether diving than the isolationtanks.

post up your experiences if you can

golivar
03-17-2008, 10:13 AM
i remember looking through this site last year, after i heard joe rogan, of all people, going on about salvia on some radio show. he owns his own isolation tank, too.

http://www.sagewisdom.org/

interesting stuff. read some of the "experiential reports". some of them are pretty out there.

kingka
03-17-2008, 10:32 AM
joe rogan is the reason I know about isolation tanks.

beanie
03-17-2008, 10:56 AM
wow this stuff is cheaper than weed. I Never would have expected to hear that.

currently reading through this

http://www.sagewisdom.org/usersguide.html

premium
03-17-2008, 11:00 AM
where you looking for prices beanie?

premium
03-17-2008, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by sanjay
I am not experienced in the ways of divinorum.

i thought for sure you would have tried it Sanjay!

kingka
03-17-2008, 11:05 AM
its cheaper on the net to. i know they'll probubly jack prices up here. how long does this stuff keep? if I bought alot of it and kept it stored. etc.

grandpa_shig
03-17-2008, 11:09 AM
i remember hearing about this 10 years ago when i was working in early prevention/intervention. there's this dude up at the haight ashbury free clinic. not sure if he's still there cuz around that time hafc was going thru some major scandals. anyways, they have this pharmacological expert there, he's somewhat famous in the community and if i remember correctly he came from the central valley. so yes he is my hammie. :) anyways, he's well respected in the addiction medicine community and he regaled us with stories about how all the addiction medicine specialists meet once a year in some secret location and they all have cases full of illicit drugs that the feds dont know enough about yet and therefore the "drugs" are still legal. they get together to kinda share info and determine which of these drugs will hit the "market" so to speak. anyways, he mentioned salvia divinorum and how that was becoming a problem on reservations and such. his talks were always interesting.

650lex
03-17-2008, 11:09 AM
i keep reading this as SALIVA

beanie
03-17-2008, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by premium
where you looking for prices beanie?


http://www.sagewisdom.org/salviashop.html

ocd
03-17-2008, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by 650lex
i keep reading this as SALIVA Same here, yo!

premium
03-17-2008, 11:21 AM
reminds me of angel trumpets

guy i knew down in Florida took a bunch

he wound up getting arrested

because he was running back and forth

across the expressway nekkid.

kingka
03-17-2008, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by grandpa_shig
i remember hearing about this 10 years ago when i was working in early prevention/intervention. there's this dude up at the haight ashbury free clinic. not sure if he's still there cuz around that time hafc was going thru some major scandals. anyways, they have this pharmacological expert there, he's somewhat famous in the community and if i remember correctly he came from the central valley. so yes he is my hammie. :) anyways, he's well respected in the addiction medicine community and he regaled us with stories about how all the addiction medicine specialists meet once a year in some secret location and they all have cases full of illicit drugs that the feds dont know enough about yet and therefore the "drugs" are still legal. they get together to kinda share info and determine which of these drugs will hit the "market" so to speak. anyways, he mentioned salvia divinorum and how that was becoming a problem on reservations and such. his talks were always interesting.

thats very interesting...

ja.net
03-17-2008, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by ocd
Same here, yo!

I have a prescription for saliva.

likeothers
03-17-2008, 12:19 PM
salvia divinorum won't give you an hour and a half trip it lasts minutes. but, possibly the most intense 5 minutes of your life. i probalby would not recommend it as a very first psychedelic to try. the experience is intense enough to possibly be traumatizing. it certainly may induce panic. i won't forget the experience. it was what i describe as closest to experiencing 4-dimensional space as one actually can. maybe that's the wrong description but it had the feeling of folding spaces and revealing something else. i also might have experienced hell. i won't ever try it again. but, it's an expereince you won't forget.

(i feel safe admitting my one time use of the substance as when i tried it it wasn't scheduled. i'm not sure if it is now or what).

ja.net
03-17-2008, 12:20 PM
Just gimme little bit for my cataracts.

35ft6
03-17-2008, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by likeothers
it was what i describe as closest to experiencing 4-dimensional space as one actually can.

i also might have experienced hell. I know you're trying to discourage me but now I really want to try it. Kind of.

wonki wonki
03-17-2008, 12:40 PM
Salvia-induced chessknitting party at ja.net's?

kingka
03-17-2008, 12:45 PM
damn... dunno, was planning on picking some up tonight. but I'm getting a little freaked out. I bet those 5 minutes felt like an eternity.

kingka
03-17-2008, 01:05 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jJXb7QFcK0M

man, fuckthat,..

guess i'll stick with the isolation tanks.

premium
03-17-2008, 01:05 PM
SALIVA GOT ME TRIPPIN!

kingka
03-17-2008, 01:09 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TfSUjFS_tjQ

likeothers
03-17-2008, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by 35ft6
I know you're trying to discourage me but now I really want to try it. Kind of.


i'm actually not discouraging you at all. well, maybe discouraging you if you've never experienced potent psychoactive drugs. but, otherwise i would say that it's been quite a memorable experience that could be of benefit to you. it's just.... very intense. at least for me.

fmstlr
03-17-2008, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by kingka
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jJXb7QFcK0M

man, fuckthat,..

guess i'll stick with the isolation tanks.

be sure to have little children around when you are trippin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhdKMK5v4eQ&NR=1

35ft6
03-17-2008, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by likeothers



i'm actually not discouraging you at all. well, maybe discouraging you if you've never experienced potent psychoactive drugs. but, otherwise i would say that it's been quite a memorable experience that could be of benefit to you. it's just.... very intense. at least for me. Used to do a lot of acid in high school. It was the best of time, it was the worst of times. It was awesome when it was just friends, all tripping, and we were at a house with some good movies lined up. Terrible when non-tripping people would appear out of nowhere to stare at you.

herrokitty
03-17-2008, 02:28 PM
psychedelics for nubs

golivar
03-17-2008, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by likeothers
salvia divinorum won't give you an hour and a half trip it lasts minutes. but, possibly the most intense 5 minutes of your life. i probalby would not recommend it as a very first psychedelic to try. the experience is intense enough to possibly be traumatizing. it certainly may induce panic. i won't forget the experience. it was what i describe as closest to experiencing 4-dimensional space as one actually can. maybe that's the wrong description but it had the feeling of folding spaces and revealing something else. i also might have experienced hell. i won't ever try it again. but, it's an expereince you won't forget.

(i feel safe admitting my one time use of the substance as when i tried it it wasn't scheduled. i'm not sure if it is now or what).

i experienced this exact same thing when i took a big crap the other day. except it was a lot stinkier.

likeothers
03-17-2008, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by 35ft6
Terrible when non-tripping people would appear out of nowhere to stare at you.

yeah paranoia time! although i used to make a sport out of taking it alone and putting myself in situations where i had to deal with sober folks. may not have been the best of ideas.

35ft6
03-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by likeothers


yeah paranoia time! although i used to make a sport out of taking it alone and putting myself in situations where i had to deal with sober folks. may not have been the best of ideas. Went to the movies once, realized I was just sitting there staring at the wall for a good ten minutes, got self-conscious, thought I should appear normal, say something a sober person would say, so I reached over, pointed at my friend's shoes, and said, dead pan, completely sincerely, "are those shoes leather?" But man I had some great laughs on acid. Like the kind where you wake up the next morning and your stomach is sore like you did 150 sit ups in 3 minutes. I remember watching a game show where people competed by teaming up with their pet dogs. I almost died.

beanie
03-17-2008, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by 35ft6
Went to the movies once, realized I was just sitting there staring at the wall for a good ten minutes, got self-conscious, thought I should appear normal, say something a sober person would say, so I reached over, pointed at my friend's shoes, and said, dead pan, completely sincerely, "are those shoes leather?" But man I had some great laughs on acid. Like the kind where you wake up the next morning and your stomach is sore like you did 150 sit ups in 3 minutes. I remember watching a game show where people competed by teaming up with their pet dogs. I almost died.

HAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha
I am soooo stealing this story and claiming it as my own!

35ft6
03-17-2008, 03:27 PM
^ It's actually one of my fondest memories. And now, it's yours.

ja.net
03-17-2008, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by wonki wonki
Salvia-induced chessknitting party at ja.net's?

Chessknitting in a Klein bottle.

likeothers
03-17-2008, 04:05 PM
^ yeah salvia makes playing games in an object embedded in 4-dimensions that much easier for sure.

randall fairbrook
03-17-2008, 04:37 PM
jesus christ folks, spend a little extra and get some shrooms, like breaking a law is a big concern to most of you...

likeothers
03-17-2008, 04:59 PM
just want to clarify. i do not condone illegal activities. and am not nor was ever a member of the communist party. thank you.

35ft6
03-17-2008, 05:03 PM
When I have a house, I'm sending out PM's to some of you mofo's, we're going to do mushrooms and watch really bad sci-fi movies.

randall fairbrook
03-17-2008, 05:16 PM
how about doing heroin and watching cnn at your place?

wordmad
03-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by randall fairbrook
jesus christ folks, spend a little extra and get some shrooms, like breaking a law is a big concern to most of you...

Haha, best thing I've read all day.

tangent23
03-17-2008, 08:24 PM
salvia divinorum is one thing i never tried, for some reason it was never around, even though some of my friends had tripped on it..

Originally posted by likeothers
it was what i describe as closest to experiencing 4-dimensional space as one actually can. maybe that's the wrong description but it had the feeling of folding spaces and revealing something else.

sounds very similar to DMT

edit> these are not recreational things, please don't approach them as you might other substances..

kingka
03-17-2008, 08:33 PM
yea, I would never want to be on this in public. did you see those youtub vids? thats an anti salvia commercial right there.

"salvia... you'll look like a cracked out retard"

isolation tanks all the way brutha.

kingka
03-17-2008, 08:36 PM
although, part of me still wants to try it. if I ever do try, I'll do it with this chick I know. she's tried it befor. and she's not going to mess with me when I'm in that state. the only drugs I've done are alcohol/nicotine .

fmstlr
03-17-2008, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by kingka
the only drugs I've done are alcohol/nicotine .

perhaps you should start with milder stuff then.

likeothers
03-17-2008, 08:43 PM
at least try lsd first to understand what it's like to be cognitively alert while having your perception altered dramatically.

golivar
03-17-2008, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by likeothers
at least try lsd first to understand what it's like to be cognitively alert while having your perception altered dramatically.

you don't need lsd for that. just watch a good episode of king of queens

TOTAL MINDFUCK (MAN)

Ahhulive
03-17-2008, 09:18 PM
salvia seeds bloom insanity

melting into the universe,
my fingers channel me away,
cursing my misfortune,
i cry out for help,
only the feeling of another can save me,
prostrated helplessly,
i submit to the beckoning ebb,
waiting for the new current to wash over me...

premium
03-18-2008, 03:40 AM
I miss my shroom tea thread. :(

beanie
03-18-2008, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by premium
I miss my shroom tea thread. :(

rink prease

and actually is it possible to somehow lace shrooms into your weed? A friend of mine said he had done so to my weed, and when we smoked it I saw lines making shapes in front of me but it was no where near a super crazy trip like everyone makes it out to be.


THREADJACK

how crazy is a sole shroom trip?

kingka
03-18-2008, 09:20 AM
are shrooms illegal?

premium
03-18-2008, 09:21 AM
shroom tea thread is gone.

it depends on how many shrooms you eat, beans.

i ate a quarter at an outdoor concert

and the world turned into a kaleidescope for a couple of hours.

i've smoked shrooms before but from what i've read,

the active ingredients don't make it through being burned.

better to eat them or boil them and drink them.

get you some beanie!!

likeothers
03-18-2008, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by beanie


rink prease

and actually is it possible to somehow lace shrooms into your weed? A friend of mine said he had done so to my weed, and when we smoked it I saw lines making shapes in front of me but it was no where near a super crazy trip like everyone makes it out to be.


THREADJACK

how crazy is a sole shroom trip?

it really depends on the person taking it. for some it is mild hallucinations coupled with strong physical high. for me, all i need to say is that it induces glossolalia. it's not something that i can just do.

likeothers
03-18-2008, 09:44 AM
Originally posted by kingka
are shrooms illegal?

shrooms are illegal and i do not support you or anyone engaging in illegal activities.

everything i've written in this thread is pure fiction.

premium
03-18-2008, 09:52 AM
anyone notice how acid has circular visuals and shrooms have linear visuals?

i love when it's like a lace curtain and you can see it blowing in the wind.

beanie
03-18-2008, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by likeothers


shrooms are illegal and i do not support you or anyone engaging in illegal activities.

everything i've written in this thread is pure fiction.

eric or aaron should really add that disclaimer 4chan has at the top of their page.

It follows along the lines of your post if I remember correctly. It's been a while since I've been on there. I only have the internet at work.

Originally posted by premium
anyone notice how acid has circular visuals and shrooms have linear visuals?

i love when it's like a lace curtain and you can see it blowing in the wind.

actually I have this lace curtain with metallic blue foil for the design and I spent hours just staring at it that night. There was no wind but the lines and the highlights, shadows and midtones seemed to be oscillating.

premium
03-18-2008, 11:02 AM
yep. that's what i was trying to describe. the oscillation.

beanie
03-18-2008, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by premium
yep. that's what i was trying to describe. the oscillation.

u r n assh013

premium
03-18-2008, 11:39 AM
???

beanie
03-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by premium
???

:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

kingka
03-18-2008, 12:12 PM
hi

beanie
03-18-2008, 12:16 PM
I'm going to make shroom tea this friday. Anyone wanna join? We'll be watching Say Anything, Batman Begins, and Micheal Clayton.

randall fairbrook
03-18-2008, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Ahhulive
salvia seeds bloom insanity

melting into the universe,
my fingers channel me away,
cursing my misfortune,
i cry out for help,
only the feeling of another can save me,
prostrated helplessly,
i submit to the beckoning ebb,
waiting for the new current to wash over me...



Salvia Seeds Bloom Shitty Poetry

herrokitty
03-18-2008, 12:45 PM
if you do some psychedelics for the first time as a result of this thread, i ask that you do not post about it. There are few things I hate more than reading a badly written trip report.

this is how you write a trip report :
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=6578

premium
03-18-2008, 01:01 PM
hahahhaah

ocd
03-18-2008, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by herrokitty
this is how you write a trip report :
http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=6578 [email protected] for president!

Youngnome
03-18-2008, 02:00 PM
salvia should be reserved for punishment of criminals

Ahhulive
03-21-2008, 05:31 PM
^ Ill punish you RF with my pen 15

randall fairbrook
03-21-2008, 06:19 PM
whutwhut?

don't make me sic my boyfriend on you

http://www.crimerant.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/curtis.jpg

golivar
03-21-2008, 09:38 PM
^oddly enough this guy is very gifted at crocheting. he makes wonderful doilies.

randall fairbrook
03-22-2008, 09:23 AM
i am pretty sure she does salvia..in fact i think she spreads it all over
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/03/0318_winehouse_wenn.jpg
http://www.americangirl.co.uk/images/amy_winehouse10_350.jpg

premium
03-22-2008, 01:25 PM
what the FUCK is wrong with her face in the top pic?

eat something, get off the drugs, go to the carribean or something.

damn.

Dr Jesus
03-22-2008, 04:55 PM
she put a cigarette out on her cheek at some restaurant the forehead i don't know about.

randall fairbrook
03-22-2008, 05:17 PM
i thought it was ringworm, ringworm is the new black fingernail polish

andrielle
04-23-2009, 07:33 PM
hey guys, check out this site I just found: www.salviasociety.org. I heard about it on Fox News last night. The guy who owns it was talking how he's trying to stop legislation in different states from banning the herb.. I hope he succeeds, meanwhile they just banned it in my State (Minnesota) :mad:

matu
04-23-2009, 07:35 PM
who the heck are you? Just kidding, we need new blood around here.

Mikio4
04-23-2009, 08:59 PM
whutwhut?

don't make me sic my boyfriend on you

http://www.crimerant.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/curtis.jpg

Who would have imagined him in the criminal justice system?

On a relevant note:
http://www.citypages.com/2008-04-09/news/state-lawmaker-tries-to-ban-salvia/

kamenriderv3
04-23-2009, 09:21 PM
he really hates it when someone asks him, "hey you got any cool tats?"

randall fairbrook
04-23-2009, 09:35 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/04/0420_amy_winehouse_x17.jpg

slaprabbjt
04-23-2009, 10:52 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/04/0420_amy_winehouse_x17.jpg

Is she starring in a Zombie movie?

matu
04-24-2009, 12:49 AM
man... she is going to look awful in 10 years :)

.Paro
04-24-2009, 04:28 AM
i am pretty sure she does salvia..in fact i think she spreads it all over
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008/03/0318_winehouse_wenn.jpg
http://www.americangirl.co.uk/images/amy_winehouse10_350.jpg

That just made me spit coffee through my nose.........fuck that's gross.

kingka
04-24-2009, 05:02 AM
Who would have imagined him in the criminal justice system?

On a relevant note:
http://www.citypages.com/2008-04-09/news/state-lawmaker-tries-to-ban-salvia/

man, I still haven't tried this yet. for whatever reason i've got a feeling that as soon as i try it out i'll lose my ability to have lucid dreams. meh. i dont think any of my friends do it either.

premium
04-24-2009, 05:21 AM
is salvia the same as the perrenial flower?

we have some on our porch...