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Margin Walker
06-23-2002, 11:50 PM
(I know there's other chess threads, but they're kinda long & unwieldly. I thought it best to start anew.)

I got some questions about the rules. I'm pretty sure that the king can't castle when the king's in check. I know the rule about not being able to castle once the king has moved, but I wasn't 100% sure about castling while in check. I'm right, right?

The other question I had was if the pawn makes it to the other side of the board. The rules state that you can trade that pawn in for a piece of your choosing. But does that include pieces that may already be on the board? e.g.: If you still have a queen in play on the board, can you request to trade the pawn in for a 2nd queen?

Margin Walker
06-24-2002, 12:03 AM
Also, anybody interested in playing a match? I hate speed chess, so it wouldn't have to be in person or even on-line. Doesn't really matter as the type of game I was thinking of playing was more of a 1-move-a-day kinda match. Not so much for playing to win but more to have an ongoing thing going on. More of a time killer & a little bit of cranial callisthetics than any sort of bragging rights/"I'm Number One! WOO!!" kinda shit. I did this at the last job I had & I really miss it. I mean, I really, really do miss it alot. In case you've never heard of it, here's a nice e-mail based chess site:

http://www.postcardchess.com

Any other sites of this nature out there?

wnoodle
06-24-2002, 05:50 AM
For real-time action you can always try: http://www.kungfuchess.com

06-24-2002, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by Margin Walker
Also, anybody interested in playing a match? I hate speed chess, so it wouldn't have to be in person or even on-line. Doesn't really matter as the type of game I was thinking of playing was more of a 1-move-a-day kinda match. Not so much for playing to win but more to have an ongoing thing going on. More of a time killer & a little bit of cranial callisthetics than any sort of bragging rights/"I'm Number One! WOO!!" kinda shit. I did this at the last job I had & I really miss it. I mean, I really, really do miss it alot. In case you've never heard of it, here's a nice e-mail based chess site:

http://www.postcardchess.com

Any other sites of this nature out there?

Shockwave has a very cool email chess game:
http://www.shockwave.com/sw/content/emailchess

06-24-2002, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Margin Walker
(I know there's other chess threads, but they're kinda long & unwieldly. I thought it best to start anew.)

I got some questions about the rules. I'm pretty sure that the king can't castle when the king's in check. I know the rule about not being able to castle once the king has moved, but I wasn't 100% sure about castling while in check. I'm right, right?

The other question I had was if the pawn makes it to the other side of the board. The rules state that you can trade that pawn in for a piece of your choosing. But does that include pieces that may already be on the board? e.g.: If you still have a queen in play on the board, can you request to trade the pawn in for a 2nd queen?

KIng cannot castle in check. King cannot castle through check. King cannot castle once it has moved.

Pawn may be promoted to whatever piece the player wants. In theory you can have 8 Queens on the board if all your pawns make it across. Usually, I opt for a rook if I have a Queen already.

And I guess you are familiar with en passant.

06-24-2002, 07:29 AM
1. d2-d4

06-24-2002, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by janet
Originally posted by Metempsychosis
1. d2-d4

You little hottie.

I'm definitely up for chess, with two warnings:
A) I'm unbelievably bad it. I don't cheat, so anybody who plays me will likely get bored quickly since I'm easy prey.

B) I hate algebraic notation. I'll live with it since I have to, but I just wanted to say for the record that I hate it.

So Mete, I'll have to draw myself a diagram (don't mail me one, if I don't do it myself I won't learn) so I can figure out what the hell you did. King's pawn forward two spaces?

No. Queen's pawn forward 2 spaces.
I open Queen side usually.

I hate algebraic too (although I am versed in it). That is why I am using coordinates. All you need is a board with coordinates.

http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/oldboard.gif

[Edited by Metempsychosis on 06-24-2002 at 11:17 AM]

Margin Walker
06-24-2002, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Metempsychosis
And I guess you are familiar with en passant.

Yeah, kind of. Like Run-DMC said, "It's Tricky" Here's a link that explains en passant w/ the pawn:

http://chess.about.com/library/blenpassantmove.htm

Of course, it's obvious that I knew that and didn't have to google for it or anything... (looks away suspiciously, starts whistling)

06-24-2002, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by janet
Wait a minute -- then what's algebraic notation? Oh, right right, where you name the piece....

Ok, then: b1-c3 (I hope I am moving my knight) -- oh wait, I moved YOUR knight --- uh... g8-f6.

Bear (not bare) with me.

I'll bare with you if you want...

This is algebraic:
http://www.soundkeepers.com/chess/images/a_notation.gif

K = King Q = Queen R = Rook
B = Bishop N = Knight

O-O castling kingside
O-O-O castling queenside
x captures or takes
+ check (sometimes "ch.")
++ checkmate
= a pawn promotion, as in f8=Q or d1=N.
e.p. en passant.
# checkmate
!! an excellent move
! a good move
!? an interesting move
?! a dubious move
?? a blunder
? a bad move
1-0 white wins
0-1 black wins
1/2-1/2 draw











But getting back to our game...

You are operating on ranks 7 & 8 of the standard notation board, while I am occupying ranks 1 & 2.

So...I believe the move you want to make would be:
1. d4-d2 b8-c6

I will respond:
1. d4-d2 b8-c6
2.g1-f3

[Edited by Metempsychosis on 06-24-2002 at 11:45 AM]

06-24-2002, 11:14 AM
so...to clarify and to adjust my thinking to what you intended....

1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4

And if I do bare it, it will be imposing anyway...

[Edited by Metempsychosis on 06-24-2002 at 12:17 PM]

Phyrephox
06-24-2002, 02:58 PM
I'd be willing to play anyone via email. [email protected] let me know. i'm decent (or at least I used to be when I was ranked...uh 5 years ago)

06-25-2002, 07:00 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3

06-26-2002, 08:02 AM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3

06-26-2002, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by janet
Oh, this is going to be one of <i>those</i> games. I suck even worse at mirror boards than regular games, I always screw up something subtle and vital.

God, I'm losing already.

Black is hard to play. If White plays a perfect game, Black is hard pressed to equalize the board. I spent a couple months just playing Black to improve my Black play. Not an easy thing. I did come up with some surprises to confuse my White opponents...

06-26-2002, 08:28 AM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3

Yes, I played Black-only for a good 3-4 months. I mean in reality, when you are playing any chess game, you are playing both sides always.

06-26-2002, 03:52 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by janet
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 b7-b6

You can't do 5...b7-b6 Black, because you did that in 4.

06-27-2002, 08:39 AM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3

06-27-2002, 09:19 AM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5

You'll just have to wait and see...

06-27-2002, 10:21 AM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0

Yes. Pawns do attack on diagonals, except in en passant.

06-27-2002, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by janet
what's 0-0? did you grab the guy next to you?

No. I castled Kingside. When you take you use an "x" instead of the dash "-"....

so my King is now on g1, and my rook is on f1.

06-27-2002, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by janet

1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 e5 x f4

That's my pawn, not yours, right? I'm keeping track on paper too but I forgot to distinguish between white & black... duh. What's the emoticon for "I'm a moron"?

You can't do 8....e5xf4.
There's nothing there.

ocd
06-27-2002, 11:59 AM
This is great!

06-27-2002, 12:17 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4

So what do you know about cartography?

06-27-2002, 12:28 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5

Online, you can be anyone, anything, everyone, and everything.

myleftlung
06-27-2002, 12:31 PM
I totally need some popcorn.

06-27-2002, 12:45 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5

Why don't you use the board coordinates I posted as the basis for your diagram? I have a regulation board set up in an adjacent table. I just have to worry that my cat might knock all the pieces over...

06-27-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by janet
So what do you know about architecture? On second thought, don't answer that. I'm not vulnerable to gay men offline, but online my gaydar can't protect me. You sound an awful lot like my ex. You'd like him, actually. His annihilation of my heart aside, I think I should hook you guys up at some point.

What do I know about architecture?
Nothing. I am joking of course. I like paper architects. And one architect whose work I like is a woman that cares only for her Issey Miyake clothes now that she has gained some renown.

As for your ex, he is straight yes? Whatever would I do with a straightman? Give myself blueballs? Your gaydar wouldn't work if you met me. I don't act gay and I come off as being quite straight. And if I told you I was gay, you'd probably insist I was lying. Like the last two girls I made out with.

[Edited by Metempsychosis on 06-27-2002 at 01:52 PM]

06-27-2002, 01:21 PM
It's nice to see you sober.

06-27-2002, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by janet
Originally posted by Metempsychosis

What do I know about architecture?
Nothing. I am joking of course. I like paper architects.

Shut up!! I made a paper cathedral, about two feet high, one-piece popup, for a friend's birthday.

And if I told you I was gay, you'd probably insist I was lying. Like the last two girls I made out with.

[Edited by Metempsychosis on 06-27-2002 at 01:52 PM] Ha -- right, and then your "cat" will jump on the girls' laps. I still have a few shreds of memory left, thank you very much. Ahem. Not that you can tell from my chess.

And I wasn't suggesting a date with you & exbf. Thinking more along the lines of the lines of kindred spirits: you could trade shop talk about rare books, classical music (his record collection is outstanding), literature, cinema, etc. His taste, obviously, is exquisite.


Personally I like the way WASPs build their hives.

Like what I said before, the cat's got a mind of it's own.

Exquisite taste eh? Could be intersting. How old is your ex? And is he from around the metro NY area?

06-27-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by janet
Originally posted by Metempsychosis

[Edited by Metempsychosis on 06-27-2002 at 01:52 PM]
Exquisite taste eh? Could be interesting. How old is your ex? And is he from around the metro NY area? [/B] He's 33, living in Manhattan for the moment, might have to move to Brooklyn depending on the sublet situation, originally from the Bay area but a New Yorker through and through. You should ignore whatever wounded venomous comments I make about him, he's a decent, charming guy and a fine novelist into the bargain. Definitely worth your while. And hey, are you going to go to my show on the 12th for me? [/B][/QUOTE]

He sounds intriguing.

I have to see about July 12th. I was planning on joining some of my friends in Sardinia for about 2 weeks...

06-27-2002, 03:30 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+

Which part do you hate?

06-27-2002, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by janet
Which part do you hate?
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ 0-0

The part where I start desperately seeking escape, only to find that my struggles just drag me under the quicksand that much faster.

Mete: (moving) Oh, that part.

*sigh*

You can't castle while you're in check. That's why I checked you.

Open criticism (don't kill me): Your Black has an underwhelming presence on the board.

06-27-2002, 03:53 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+

Given the chance for a Queen exchange, I usually exchange. Just for your future reference. I don't think you suck...We all started out somewhere.

06-27-2002, 04:03 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+ e8xd7
14. d3-c2

06-28-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by janet
Originally posted by Metempsychosis
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+ e8xd7
14. d3-c2

Steno question: d,e,f 3: your pawn, my pawn, my pawn: is that right? I didn't erase my previous marks completely. If so, then h7-h6.

Not possible.
Your h pawn is already on h5.
As witnessed in: 8....h7-h5

d5: My pawn
e5: Your pawn
f5: Your pawn
f3: My Knight

06-28-2002, 02:56 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+ e8xd7
14. d3-c2 e5-e4
15. c2-a4+

I had a feeling you were going to do that.
No prob. I have a feeling that you are out to confuse me as well...

06-28-2002, 03:12 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+ e8xd7
14. d3-c2 e5-e4
15. c2-a4+ c7-c6
16. f3-d4


Sardinia is still tentative. But I want to go. I need to go.

yangnome
06-28-2002, 03:33 PM
yeah, go janet... you suck metem, you wouldn't last a minute against sol....

06-28-2002, 03:38 PM
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+ e8xd7
14. d3-c2 e5-e4
15. c2-a4+ c7-c6
16. f3-d4 a8-c8
17. a4xc6+

06-28-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by yangnome
yeah, go janet... you suck metem, you wouldn't last a minute against sol....

I hear he is one formidable player. Won two games at the same time while being suspended upside down, in a straight jacket, chained in an underwater tank with only a tube for breathing. Apparently communicated his moves to an assistant through blinking his eyes.

06-29-2002, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by janet
I am not going to be able to play chess for a little while but I want to finish this game. Can we put it on hold?

Of course we can.

archonemis
06-30-2002, 10:08 PM
May I play a game?

I can play a little chess.

I won't puss out this time like I did last time.

07-17-2002, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Metempsychosis
1. d2-d4 g8-f6
2. c2-c4 b8-c6
3. g1-f3 d7-d6
4. b1-c3 b7-b6
5. e2-e3 e7-e5
6. f1-d3 g7-g6
7. d4-d5 c6-e7
8. 0-0 h7-h5
9. e3-e4 c8-f5?
10. e4xf5 g6xf5
11. c1-g5 f8-g7
12. d1-a4+ d8-d7
13. a4xd7+ e8xd7
14. d3-c2 e5-e4
15. c2-a4+ c7-c6
16. f3-d4 a8-c8
17. a4xc6+



You are in check.

/dev/null
07-17-2002, 05:06 PM
I prefer Castillo Blue or an aged Stilton.

Oh, I'm sorry! I thought it said The (New) Cheese Thread

07-29-2002, 09:51 PM
I am going to post chess problems from here on in.
For anyone interested.

They will be shorter than games and require just as much thinking. Unless that is...if you cheat and look for solutions online. But where would the fun be in that?


http://www.knurdle.com/albums/giantrobot/1953_G.jpg

archonemis
07-30-2002, 06:18 AM
It starts with a queen sacrifice, doesn't it?

07-30-2002, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by archonemis
It starts with a queen sacrifice, doesn't it?

But of course.

archonemis
01-27-2003, 12:15 PM
Iago, I'll challenge you to a chess game and not bitch out.

I feel like some chess.

remotecontrolalligator
04-24-2003, 02:24 PM
try shougi...

http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/ssueda/applets/shougi/shougi.html

"Shougi is an Oriental version of chess. Each player has 20 pieces, and the object of the game is to capture the opponent's king. Widely played since ancient times, shougi remains popular today with an estimated 20 million adherents of the game in Japan alone. As with go, shougi players are ranked by skill level. The Japan Shougi Association is made up of around 170 professional shougi players of the fourth rank and above (approximately 30 of them retired). There are about a dozen major shougi tournaments each year, primarily sponsored by the newspaper companies."

Phyrephox
08-10-2003, 04:53 PM
Iago, know of any good internet resources for openings? I'm too lazy to actually checkout/buy books, but would love to mess around the net.

Phyrephox
08-19-2003, 04:47 PM
That's great Iago, but I'm also talking about analysis, not just the moves.

Phyrephox
08-19-2003, 08:34 PM
My god, you are my Chess Hero. Thanks mate.

Phyrephox
08-20-2003, 10:34 AM
What openings do you use?

wonki wonki
11-11-2003, 10:23 AM
Well I finally beat my labmate by playing the Sicilian Defense. That's the chess news of the day from me. Now back to regularly scheduled programming.

evillilgirl
11-11-2003, 12:35 PM
I love watching people play chess.. and making tatic's in my head.. did any hear about the star's wars looking holographic chess board that was made a few years ago?

wonki wonki
11-11-2003, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Iago
Which Sicilian?

Sicilian Center Game:

1. e4 c5
2. d4 cxd4
3. Qxd4 ... <--- He was lost from here.
3. ... Nc6
4. Qa4 Nf6

He's a good player (better than me definitely, me being pretty much a beginner), very tactical, but not very familiar with things outside the e4-e5 domain.

tangent23
11-17-2003, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by evillilgirl
I love watching people play chess.. and making tatic's in my head.. did any hear about the star's wars looking holographic chess board that was made a few years ago?

Kasparov's latest game v computer [X3dFritz] was played on a 3d virtual board using 3D glasses...Kasparov won by the way...

http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,61258,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_10

Margin Walker
09-02-2004, 07:25 AM
http://www.postcardchess.com
^ Any takers? Name: K.R. E-mail: [email protected] Move: yours. Bting. It. On.

Margin Walker
09-07-2004, 09:57 AM
No takers? :(

stryfe
11-05-2004, 01:10 PM
the thinking machine (http://turbulence.org/spotlight/thinking/chess.html)
What do the images mean?
When it is your (White's) turn to move, the chess board will gently pulse to show the influence of the various pieces. in the left image below, you can see waves over the squares around the king and (very lightly) over the squares where the pawns might capture. When the machine (Black) is thinking, a network of curves is overlaid on the board; see image at right. The curves show potential moves--often several turns in the future--considered by the computer. Orange curves are moves by black; green curves are ones by white. The brighter curves are thought by the program to be better for white.

ja.net
11-05-2004, 02:15 PM
I have advice for those playing Iago: get him tired and drunk, and it will take an extra 10 minutes for him to slaughter you. It worked for me!

fmstlr
11-19-2004, 12:18 AM
WTF (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1348)

Margin Walker
11-19-2004, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by fmstlr
WTF (http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1348)
Damn, I really thought that Kickboxing was the sport of the future. You lied to me, Lloyd Dobler!!

tangent23
07-21-2005, 01:25 AM
chess 960:

http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,68227,00.html

Unorthodox Chess From an Odd Mind


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By Kevin Poulsen | Also by this reporter

02:00 AM Jul. 19, 2005 PT

Two dozen programmers from around the world have signed up to compete in Germany next month in the first computer chess tournament devoted to Chess960, a game variant invented by fugitive chess genius Bobby Fischer that's slowly gaining rank among grandmasters.

The rules of Chess960 are mostly the same as orthodox chess -- but the setup incorporates something once considered anathema to the game: chance. Pawns begin where they always do. However, the pieces behind them on the white side are arranged at random, with the proviso that bishops must end up on opposite colors, and the king dwell somewhere between the two rooks. The black pieces are lined up to mirror the white.

That makes for 960 different starting positions in the game, instead of just one. The point of Chess960 is to free chess from the yoke of memorization.
The opening phase of a chess game as currently played has been subject to a hundred years of scholarship and play, and today players are hard pressed to find so much as a viable pawn push within the first 20 moves that hasn't been thoroughly analyzed.

As a result, serious players spend considerable time memorizing published openings as played by masters and grandmasters, so they know the correct, time-tested response to every move an opponent makes. One standard text on the subject, Modern Chess Openings, is 750 pages long, and will tell you, for example, that the proper answer to white's pawn advance on the 12th move of the Soltis Variation of the Yugoslav Attack, a variant of the Sicilian Defense, is to move your king's rook pawn.

"Bobby Fischer felt that this is not really what chess should be all about," said Mark Vogelgesang with Chess Tigers, a German nonprofit group organizing next month's tournament. "It should be about creativity."

Fischer unveiled the new chess at a 1996 press conference in Buenos Aires. The idea was simple: With so many possible starting positions, Chess960 -- or "Fischer Random Chess" -- takes rote memorization off the board. Opening books are obsolete, and competitors live and die by skill alone from the very first move.
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herrokitty
07-21-2005, 02:56 AM
I just invented texas hold em chess.

Iago
07-21-2005, 05:46 AM
Fischer. Yes yes. Old fucking news.

Iago
11-30-2005, 11:13 AM
Too hilarious.

World Chess Beauty Contest
www.1wcbc.com

ja.net
11-30-2005, 11:18 AM
That is hilarious.

And yet my pants feel strangely tight.

yamchild
03-14-2008, 10:07 AM
anybody play chinese chess (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiangqi)? i've always wondered how similar stradegies are for playing chinese chess vs western chess, since the game setups have so many similarities. i only play "half chess" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banqi) because i really suck at non-chance-based games...

Remy
03-14-2008, 11:56 AM
My friend is developing this site:

www.chess.com (duh!)

members have loved it and i thought i'd share.

esswhykay
06-22-2011, 05:06 PM
Anybody on Chess with Friends?

tangent23
06-22-2011, 05:20 PM
add me tangent23, i need the practice as i'm not very good..

joetron2030
06-22-2011, 05:21 PM
I showed how much I suck at words with friends, I may sit this one out. :D

joetron2030
06-22-2011, 05:22 PM
i have advice for those playing iago: Get him tired and drunk, and it will take an extra 10 minutes for him to slaughter you. It worked for me!

lol.

cclixroblesb9
06-22-2011, 06:06 PM
(I know there's other chess threads, but they're kinda long & unwieldly. I thought it best to start anew.)

I got some questions about the rules. I'm pretty sure that the king can't castle when the king's in check. I know the rule about not being able to castle once the king has moved, but I wasn't 100% sure about castling while in check. I'm right, right?

The other question I had was if the pawn makes it to the other side of the board. The rules state that you can trade that pawn in for a piece of your choosing. But does that include pieces that may already be on the board? e.g.: If you still have a queen in play on the board, can you request to trade the pawn in for a 2nd queen?

Try MBT MBT Shugli GTX black to wear it a few steps forth, the best body weight were alternately fall on the feet, toe check whether there is enough space to accommodate the pressure level and slight stretching of the foot. Select a good pair of exercise MBT. Utilisation of various physical exertion and places, take the suitable MBT. Light should select those who possess weight unit, weight loss easy to induce a signified of wearer flavor, and also be eazy to feel fatigue.

Iago
06-22-2011, 10:26 PM
Amusing. Those early exchanges with janet when we were just starting to get to know each other.

beanie
06-22-2011, 10:37 PM
Amusing. Those early exchanges with janet when we were just starting to get to know each other.

What strategies would you recommend to someone is just starting to get into the sport?

archonemis
06-22-2011, 11:20 PM
Play as often as possible.

Read easy chess books:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiGbv1pAg7Os4gf3FDwFJRXqZFLFhZyWuUGPcOTpHeu3-F4rWOmg

^That book changed my game.

Dense theory books won't help you as much as just playing, though.

esswhykay
06-23-2011, 08:07 AM
Tangello, you there man?

Goner
06-23-2011, 08:25 AM
Got to see that Bobby Fischer documentary on HBO not too long ago. It's fascinating to think that the same mind that housed his genius was the same mind that also housed his paranoia. Perhaps the genius and the paranoia actually fed off each other. When he stopped playing, there was nothing to keep the balance in his mind.

archonemis
06-23-2011, 09:02 AM
Oddly enough I think that Kurt Gödel thing about closed systems being internally incomplete has something to play in cases like Bobby Fischer. Highly developed left-brain thinking will tend to see the world more in terms of logic. One looks for conclusions, effects and end-states. The only problem with this is that the experience of life has no conclusions, effects or end-states so the logic part of the brain goes into over-drive in an attempt to make the data conform to the model.

I don't know anything about Bobby Fischer apart from a few game analyses and like three interviews, but he seemed like a very left brain person. I bet he let his logic centers get too strong and then the rest of his brain got over-whelmed.

Of course the other way of looking at it is that this civilization is pretty retarded.

If I could drop out I think I would.

Iago
06-23-2011, 10:52 AM
What strategies would you recommend to someone is just starting to get into the sport?

Be familiar with the 5 general openings: http://bit.ly/Wrt1Y

Yasser Seirawan has some good beginner's books. He has a very easy, casual style that anyone can grasp; written almost like the for Dummy guides. Very basic foundational ideas before you move on to more theoretical play.

You'll find your particular playing style later. I am perhaps a bit more hypermodern, but can play a Sicilian if need be. Along the Bb5 lines mind you. Heh.

I like unconventional openings. Mainly for novelty and to stun people who play more conventional games. I've been exploring Alekhine's defense for some time now. Not for the faint of heart by any means.

Ideally you should be familiar with all the Steinitz-Tarrasch versus Hypermodern concepts. Most chess players are capable of wielding various openings from either school.

grandpa_shig
06-23-2011, 02:01 PM
i played chess in grade school for about 2 months. at that point i realized you really needed to read those chess books to be any good. i picked one up once but quickly realized i wasnt about to read about how to play a game. but that didnt stop me from coming up with my own strategies.

THE FRANKLIN MINT STRATEGY:
see there used to be these 10 minute infomercials by the franklin mint where they would have these elaborate narratives to sell a shiny quarter for like $20. there was one commercial where they sold a die-cast civil war chess set (north v. south) and the commecial ended on what i believed at the time to be the most pimp chess move. moving the knight first. it really fucked dudes up (in grade school, mind you) when you DIDNT move a pawn first. like dudes would look at me like OH SHIT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CHINESE MOFOS THATS ABOUT TO RUN A GAME ON ME!. i think it might have worked about 1/3 of the time, and you know, part of the game is about the mind fuck. of course, once i moved my knight that was the only strategic move i had and the rest of the game i was just as dumb as the next dude. if anyone had any know-how in the chess game, moving your knight first dont really mean shit. so it didnt fool anyone who actually had game. but yeah, id use the assumptions about my race and my patented franklin mint move to fuck dudes up in rural fresno.

THE GREG:
i knew a dude through church, ryan hashimoto, and he had some chess game. i think he was okinawan or something cuz he had naturally curly fro hair. this one time he came to bball practice without moussing up his bouf so he kinda had a fro. and japanese dudes in the 70s tended to rock that stupid curly perm thing. and in that generation of JA's there was always a guy named greg. so i called him greg. anyways, back to chess. im pretty sure this move is something he read out of a book but it was one of the most aggressive moves and ive seen him take dudes out with less than 5 moves. he'd move the pawn in front of his king up 1 space. then quickly flank out his queen and bishop diagonally. those dudes that practice the "mirror technique" would instantly get fucked. i tried that move a few times and moving your big baller pieces far into enemy territory really gets mofos shook. the problem is if you have no strategy it can go bad really fast. like if they dont move their pawns out of the way then id be the one getting frazzled and lose.

but yeah, try my patented moves out on unsuspecting chess virgins. theyll think youre that ibm robot.

grandpa_shig
06-23-2011, 02:19 PM
aw sheeeeeiiit! here it is. man, brings back memories of being grounded in the summer and watching god damn barnaby jones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJQfRkzLiQA

thought these commercials were longer than 2 minutes tho!

joetron2030
06-24-2011, 05:38 AM
I remember those Franklin Mint commercials on TV, too. That's the old school jammie.

archonemis
06-24-2011, 10:16 AM
I've been looking up strategies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QAC3kQuSeQ) for some reason.

All those old jokes like "I saw that move against Spassky in 1972" are a lot funnier to me now.

Iago
06-24-2011, 11:00 AM
Zugzwang concept at brilliant work here.:

Saemich vs Nimzovich 1923.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJqKYoCFcKA

Hypermodernist versus hypermodernist
Alekhine - Nimzovitsch, Sam Remo 1930
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C886929-L4I&feature=fvst

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugzwang

35ft6
06-26-2011, 09:45 PM
Watching the Bobby Fischer documentary now. I feel so bad for the guy. He's kind of reminding me of the depiction of Hemingway in Midnight in Paris.

archonemis
08-04-2011, 04:08 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zugzwang

I used that concept recently.

After I looked through the moves, though, I noticed that I only won because I wasted fewer moves.

For some reason Yahoo! Chess has a lot of people playing pawn storm openings.

I've won all of them thus far. It's a bit dull, but then again I'm learning something new so I guess it's not all that bad.